I just realized that the websites openbusmap and openstreetbrowser is also available for Israel now.
That means that we have several websites showing the public transportations in Israel:
BTW: If there is anybody traveling by train in Israel - It would be great to add the train (number) relation to the great rail network we already have in Openstreetmap.
Relation tags, copied from Mr_Israel’s relations:
color = yellow
from = Dimona
name = Train: Dimona => Be’er Sheva
operator = Israeli Railways
route = train
to = Be’er Sheva
type = route
A train station has “stop” role in the relation. A rail way has “forward” role for a unidirectional relation, or “route” role in a bidirectional relation.
Do we really need two relations, one for each direction? Or can we have one for both?
Mr_Israel, there are some rail ways in the Modi’in/Nahariyya route that do not have the “forward” role in their relation.
Since we have many oneway railway lines (i.e. double tracks) and railway stations should be a node on a railway line,
then maybe it would be better to have only one relation per “route” (e.g. Nahariya-Modiin) and add both lines to it.
It might also be a good time to add oneway=yes wherever there are oneway lines (e.g. along TelAviv-Haifa)
Hmm… I have just came to Dimona => Be’er Sheva route woundering who added it
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Regarding the relations:
I have checked several trainstations in Germany realizing that they are using two relations for trains and just one releation for public trains inside of the city.
In UK they are mostly just using one relation. So we can define it the way we want it to be and add it here : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Train_routes
We just have 7 routes, this would mean we talking about 14 releations, what is not a lot for a whole country.
Of course this makes more work for us but in this case we can define the “from” and “to” correctly.
This page states that for stops, “The order of the members in the relation should identical to the order in the timetable.” When I look at the Modi’in/Nahariyya route relation, I see unordered stops (Pa’atei Modi’in is between Tel Aviv Center and Atlit, etc). Does this mean their order in the relation in not correct?
Additional to that, there has to be a “Route master”:
“The route master is a relation that contains all the direction and variant routes and the information that belongs to the whole service.”
@adrukh: Of course it can happen that I missed a stop and added them later, but I hope its not a issue.
But if I understand the websites correctly you are right that they should be defined in a order.
So I don’t have a answer if we should change them or not.
I meant - Instaed of this info buried in the forum, it will be in the wiki, with links from Israel’s wiki page.
Just like the forests list in the wiki.
It is very updated and very good if you would like to add bus or tram ways and check if everything is connected.
I found several small and big mistakes in the train routes and fixed them with that tool.
Turns out there are “stray trains”, following routes not mentioned on www.rail.co.il!
For example, every morning you can catch a train from Modi’in straight to Hod Hasharon, without changing trains in Tel Aviv… 90% of the time during a day you will need to change trains, but not 100%.
Should such routes also be defined as separate relations?
If we add those routes… they would have to have seperated relations.
But when adding those kind of routes there needs to be a way to separate those routes.
Currently I’m using color names as reference number. But there has to be some kind of official route number.
Would be great if somebody could do a small research in hebrew for that.
I’m not sure that you should create a route for every variation, especially these early-morning/late-at-night samples.
As long as there’s a route from Modiin to Tel Aviv, and another one from Tel Aviv to Hod HaSharon, means that a routing software could create a route to navigate by.
Suppose someone sees this straight route from Modiin to Hod HaSharon, and would like to use it - They will be a bit disappointed…