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#1 2021-03-15 08:45:19

Bolt001
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From: Yerevan
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[Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Hi everyone,

I’m Murad from Bolt.

We are going to start improving the road network of Russia. Project details can be found here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Org … vites/Bolt. We would like to get familiar with local mapping guidelines if there are any.

Please, let me know if you have questions.

Waiting for your reply.

Regards,
Murad from Bolt Map Production

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#2 2021-03-15 09:28:09

pfg21
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

расскажите что вы хотите делать ??
на основании каких инструментов и источников ??

Last edited by pfg21 (2021-03-15 09:28:20)

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#3 2021-03-15 09:30:46

literan
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Bolt001 wrote:

We would like to get familiar with local mapping guidelines if there are any.

we have local Agreement on road types and statuses: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU: … sification

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#4 2021-03-15 15:21:28

luiswoo
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Bolt GPS traces (internal and non-downloadable file)

Что это за не преодолимая проблема предоставить анонимные gps треки, в виде тепловой карты, как это сделала компания Strava?

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#5 2021-03-15 16:11:46

Stalker61
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Bolt001 wrote:

We are going to start improving the road network of Russia.

Очередные диванные улучшатели как и от Apple?!
Головняк, похоже, тот будет. sad


Делай, что должен, и будь, что будет.

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#6 2021-03-15 18:10:51

Sergey Astakhov
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

А может не надо?
Прежде чем что-то править, тем более в значимых объёмах - надо сначала договориться о правилах.
Сделайте валидатор, который бы показал предполагаемые места правок, мы бы посмотрели и дали добро (или наоборот).

А то вот вы с прошлого года типа той же Литвой вроде занимаетесь, а там до сих пор иерархической связности нету: https://peirce.gis-lab.info/qa/LT-OVRV/routing-map/3

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#7 2021-03-16 06:08:33

chnav
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Да, обязательно надо узнать критерии отрисовки дорог. Взять к примеру AI-Assisted Road Tracing от Facebook. Безусловно крутая технология и очень помогает, но надо тщательно проверять вручную. Особенно это касается грунтовых дорог - кто-то объехал лужу слева, а кто-то - справа. И вот вам две полосы в чистом поле.

"Ручных" трассировщиков это тоже касается, они думают что чем больше точек тем лучше (платят им что-ли за точки).

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#8 2021-03-16 07:08:32

Bolt001
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Hi everyone,

Thank you for your responses.

I understand Russian, but can't write in it well, I'm sorry.

We use GPS traces (private and non-downloadable) generated by our drivers to improve the road network. For now, improvements include missing roads, one-way tags, road access, turn restrictions. The process includes detecting possible missing road candidates based on the GPS data we have → review the candidates using publicly available sources (such as OSC and Mapillary) → editing the map if the candidate is valid (same goes for one-way tags, road access and turn restrictions).
The tools we are going to use are JOSM, OSC, Mapillary and internal tasking managers.

Thanks for the information regarding road types.

In case of other questions or feedback about our edits, please feel free to reach out to me.

Regards,
Murad from Bolt Map Production

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#9 2021-03-16 07:12:38

Bolt001
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Since Bolt operates only in St. Petersburg for now, we are going to edit only in St. Petersburg and in case of any doubts, we are going to reach out to our local team for on-ground validation.

Last edited by Bolt001 (2021-03-16 07:12:57)

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#10 2021-03-16 08:24:23

literan
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Bolt001 wrote:

using publicly available sources (such as OSC and Mapillary)

You may use Yandex panoramas also (https://yandex.ru/maps/-/CCUQz8EePB) - we have permission from Yandex

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#11 2021-03-17 07:37:15

Bolt001
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

literan wrote:

You may use Yandex panoramas also (https://yandex.ru/maps/-/CCUQz8EePB) - we have permission from Yandex

Thank you, we will look into that!

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#12 2021-07-13 10:13:29

Cd_spb
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Приветствую.

Есть проблемы с качеством редактирования сотрудниками Bolt. В первой правке, которую я открыл – https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/107630624 отсутствует  адекватная связность между:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/962585823
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/227951086
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/545898200

P.S. Пока не исправлял.

Last edited by Cd_spb (2021-07-13 10:13:51)

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#13 2021-07-13 11:35:30

Bolt001
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Re: [Bolt] Road Network Improvements in Russia

Cd_spb wrote:

Приветствую.

Есть проблемы с качеством редактирования сотрудниками Bolt. В первой правке, которую я открыл – https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/107630624 отсутствует  адекватная связность между:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/962585823
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/227951086
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/545898200

P.S. Пока не исправлял.

Hey Cd_spb, thanks for your feedback. We have fixed the issues you mentioned. Sorry for this, we gonna be more attentive to avoid this kind of issues.

Regards,
Murad

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