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#1 2020-10-22 09:25:42

Mateusz Konieczny
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Road import - CC BY 4.0 trap (waiver needed)

Sorry for English and sorry for news about obscure copyright issues disturbing mapping activity.

The mentioned import is documented at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Imp … t_(Norway)

Required waiver seems missing, making this import problematic in a copyright part.

See https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/ … c-by-data/ for details.

I am aware that it is a long term import and it started before this requirement was known to be necessary :(

Hopefully it can be easily obtained, as the agency was actually interested in sharing data.

Sorry for bothering you about this, but it is better to have a clear copyright situation

Copy of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tal … t_(Norway)

Last edited by Mateusz Konieczny (2020-10-22 09:27:13)

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#2 2020-10-22 10:27:01

NKA
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Re: Road import - CC BY 4.0 trap (waiver needed)

The requested permission is already linked in the import wiki.
Here it is: http://lists.nuug.no/pipermail/kart/201 … 04831.html

Last edited by NKA (2020-10-23 19:42:01)

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#3 2020-10-23 09:52:37

Mateusz Konieczny
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Re: Road import - CC BY 4.0 trap (waiver needed)

See https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/ … c-by-data/ for details.

It is NOT primarily about attribution, it is primarily about DRM.

CC BY licences contain a strict prohibition on distributing so licensed material with DRM-enabled media/transport. The ODbL contains a similar restriction, but allows parallel distribution of “Derivative Databases” as a way to fulfill the obligation for unrestricted access. Distribution of ODbL “Produced Works” (for example maps) does not even require that.To avoid this incompatibility we will be requiring an explicit waiver of the prohibition on applying Technological Effective Measures (as defined in the license) found in Section 2a5B of CC  BY 4.0.

I am pretty sure that this attribution-related permission is not sufficient.

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#4 2020-10-23 14:08:05

Mateusz Konieczny
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Re: Road import - CC BY 4.0 trap (waiver needed)

Also, from legal-talk where I asked for confirmation

Just as a note, prior to the review of CC BY 4.0 compatibility by the LWG (and CC fwiw), we were very clear that 4.0 licensed material should -not- be imported, the importers knew this and were ignoring it at their own risk.

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#5 2020-10-23 19:56:49

NKA
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Re: Road import - CC BY 4.0 trap (waiver needed)

There seems to be some confusion here. We are fully aware of the CC BY limitations, so what we have obtained is a complete explicit permission from Kartverket to use their open data in OSM. It is not limited to attribution - that item is specifically mentioned just to have clarity on how attribution is done by OSM.

Anyway, we now import the same road data from the NVDB system at Statens Vegvesen. We also have an explicit permission from Statens Vegvesen for the same data: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=63483

Last edited by NKA (2020-10-23 20:03:46)

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#6 2020-10-23 20:00:05

Tractor
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Re: Road import - CC BY 4.0 trap (waiver needed)

Kartverket have given explicit permission to use their data in OSM.

Kartverket require attribution when their data is used. Therefore, we asked them to confirm that it would be sufficient that they were mentioned here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Con … thority.29

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#7 2020-10-26 22:25:05

forteller
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Re: Road import - CC BY 4.0 trap (waiver needed)

Sorry, what, how is DRM relevant?

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