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Jan Olieslagers

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From: B-3150

Registered: 2019-09-15

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Lotnisko Iwonicz

Excuse me for writing in English.

Changeset 89188567 removes node 6696719276 , describing the airfield Iwonicz. I have no local knowledge, so this may be correct, if the aerodrome has completely disappeared from the landscape. But that seems little plausible. The more so that it is still mentioned, as being active, on the usually quite reliable dlapilota.pl

The airfield may perhaps be closed, or even abandoned; but if so, there should be added the appropriate tag like disused=yes or it could even be changed to disused:aeroway=aerodrome

A complete removal smells of vandalism to me. Could someone with local knowledge kindly take a look?

Thanks in advance,

k2101

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Registered: 2020-08-11

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Re: Lotnisko Iwonicz

Chodzi tutaj o byłe lotnisko "Iwonicz" położone w Targowiskach. Teren został wykupiony przez miasto Krosno. W 2021 roku miasto poszerzy swoje granice o to byłe lotnisko. Zostało ono wykreślone z oficjalnej ewidencji lotnisk i lądowisk Urzędu Lotnictwa Cywilnego na wniosek Krosna. Jeśli ktoś wie, jak je oznaczyć by rozwiązać tę sytuację, będę wdzięczny. Warto wspomnieć, że od dawna na tym terenie nie odbywają się żadne operacje lotnicze.
To parę linków, jeśli ktoś będzie wiedział, jak wyjść z tej sytuacji:

https://plus.nowiny24.pl/lotnisko-iwoni … 3-13454327
https://dlapilota.pl/wiadomosci/dlapilo … dencji-ulc
https://krosno24.pl/informacje/od-1-sty … asta-i3723

maro21

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Re: Lotnisko Iwonicz

Myślę, że najlepiej oznaczyć je "abandoned:aeroway=aerodrome" i w "note" wpisać informacje, że lotnisko już nie działa i ewentualnie dać linki.

Jan Olieslagers

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Re: Lotnisko Iwonicz

( if the machine translated that correctly) I agree that IF the aerodrome is no longer active, THEN it is best to tag it accordingly. But my question is first of all: "what is the actual status of this airfield?" Since other sources mark it as being existant and active, I should be glad to see (verifyable) information from mappers with local knowledge.

Last edited by Jan Olieslagers (2020-08-11 14:45:29)

Mateusz Konieczny

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Registered: 2013-09-22

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Re: Lotnisko Iwonicz

( if the machine translated that correctly) I agree that IF the aerodrome is no longer active, THEN it is best to tag it accordingly. But my question is first of all: "what is the actual status of this airfield?" Since other sources mark it as being existant and active, I should be glad to see (verifyable) information from mappers with local knowledge.

Which other sources?

https://dlapilota.pl/wiadomosci/dlapilo … dencji-ulc specifically mentions that airport is no longer active - "Polska Agencja Żeglugi Powietrznej poinformowała o aktualizacja przez Urząd Lotnictwa Cywilnego wykazu lotnisk i związanej z tym likwidacji lotniska Iwonicz".

" The more so that it is still mentioned, as being active, on the usually quite reliable dlapilota.pl"

is dlapilota.pl self-contradicting? Which was date of update of what you checked? Is it after or before https://dlapilota.pl/wiadomosci/dlapilo … dencji-ulc ? Maybe airport deactivation was cancelled?

https://krosno24.pl/informacje/od-1-sty … asta-i3723 - airport is explicitly described as former, but some infrastructure appears to be existing.

Last edited by Mateusz Konieczny (2020-08-11 19:41:04)

Jan Olieslagers

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Re: Lotnisko Iwonicz

Ok, Mateusz, thank you, I will mark the aerodrome as "closed" then, at some other resources.
Perhaps you could find a way to update the nice people at dlapilota?
And perhaps it would be a good idea to mark the runways as "disused:aeroway", too.
Kind regards,
Karel

Mateusz Konieczny

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Re: Lotnisko Iwonicz

Perhaps you could find a way to update the nice people at dlapilota?

Where they claim that this airport is open?

And perhaps it would be a good idea to mark the runways as "disused:aeroway", too.

Why? Disused aeroway is still aeroway, unlike disused shop that is no longer shop or disused aerodrome that is no longer an aerodrome.

Last edited by Mateusz Konieczny (2020-08-12 16:16:53)

Jan Olieslagers

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Re: Lotnisko Iwonicz

Well, err, I find it a bit difficult to imagine the runways being NOT disused if the aerodrome is...

Last edited by Jan Olieslagers (2020-08-12 15:56:56)