Why o why series..

Anybody want to go flying Duke of Hazzard style into the “roundabout”? Instead of General Lee, we’ll use Grab’s kapcai instead.:lol:

Shouldnt try the freaky indoor feature, very time consuming. But I had done for my neighbourhood mall, with my ground truth.
See: https://openlevelup.net/?l=0#18/5.31987/100.47772

They really don’t give a shit…

edit: seems I need to go over kuala terengganu area once more. This is a never ending job. Maybe we should let grab, apple, kaart and whoever finish whatever they wanted to do, and only then start to look at the quality of data. In that case, I’ll be probably cooped up in my room for a month!

Oh, you just need to replace your car with a good tank. Then you can use those Grab roads too.

The city of Sungai Petani, Kedah is under siege between two (non-local) remote mapping teams. I don’t know whether those independent teams do communicate with each other - one is tracing things with what’s available to the editors, while the other team is claiming they have purchased a fresher imagery.

Coordination may be important: they shouldn’t wipe each other’s edit and/or upset the local mappers (as if they have ever stepped on our soils).

Some edits were made on the basis of consistency - but, hey, we may drove on these roads ourselves: since when our roads are consistent?

It’s a saying that “less precise map data is better than none”, but then again, unless we have a ton of local mappers, it’s an uphill task to actually fine tune all these remote mapping edits. I am still discovering bad, misleading edits made from the first wave of GlobalLogic (for Grab) mapping effort from last year.

Who needs to pay for toll? Using grab tank, you can just drive though the teak trees, the fence, and the oil palm trees to your destination. In India maybe… :rage:

Actually, now I just realized that I discovered this while planning a trip to a destination a few hundred meters south of this area, and I planned to go there at about 2 o’clock in the morning. Imagine the colossal fuck up it would have been if I just entered the destination on Osmand and just went without checking the route first.

And now, we have to check for the ‘short cuts’ like this along the all the closed-toll motorways. $#@!!

I thought I’m the only one seeing wild things…

More incoming eyesore…

I’m the process of uploading my own ancient GPS tracks - that’s the way mapping can be done before the advent of donations of clearer satellite imageries.

I admit this should be done waaaaaaay earlier ( ̶b̶a̶r̶u̶ ̶d̶i̶o̶r̶a̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶a̶u̶ ̶s̶a̶p̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶a̶n̶g̶ ̶l̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶k̶a̶w̶a̶s̶a̶n̶), it would made my life easier ̶ ̶a̶r̶g̶u̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h explaining things to the non-local remote mapping efforts.

Anyway, another problem I spotted with them is that they may not take hints from the surrounding mapped areas. I’ve seen highways traced over wastewater basins or pools of water - because developments of newer housing estates took off a few years later; after an independent mapper initially added those water elements.

One critical comment which I might let them know is to actually observe the surroundings and if possible, remove those pools and/or make more necessary changes. I mean, what’s the difference between simply getting paid to trace roads, and volunteers in map-a-thons, sans exchange in labour?

Straight to the point: While I’m curating which GPS tracks to be made public for OSM purposes, I stumbled upon some impressive edits.

Residential highways in an archaeological site? Really? It would made sense in the year of 600 BC where this would be a site of almost industrial-scale iron smelting, and people would live nearby. Yes, there are residential houses to the southwest of this site (and likely buildings related to aquaculture farms), but warranting a residential highway is overtagging IMHO.

Ooo… anyone with an amphibious vehicle? Tanks, preferably?

Here lies another problem: the mapper involved in the second case seemed no longer mapping (dah arwah dah). The said edit was made exactly a year ago. Seriously, this is bound to happen (again and again) when a team of easily 20-50 (non-local) remote mappers outdo the almost all active mappers of the whole country…

This is ironic, claiming that they “stick to the Wiki” while totally ignoring actual areas mapped to match the reality.

I hope you added the correct access tags. E.g.
access:grab_tank=yes
Or should it rather be
access:elephant=yes
access:buffalo=yes
:smiley:

Just randomly looking at Sabah, and I saw many weird stuff, many villages are in all caps, and even non-settlement places tagged as villages…

*Edit: The affected areas for those problems are mostly in Ranau, Keningau, Tenom, Nabawan, and Pitas. I’m not sure how to embed images from Google Drive, so if the images above is not showing up, right click or long press on the “preview” and click “open image in new tab”.

  1. I don’t think you can link image from google drive. You need a link from image hosting websites like Imgur or something similar.

  2. Caps in village names.
    You know what uses caps for village names? Google maps. So you know where those were probably copied from. :roll_eyes:

Oh my goodness! Even business establishments were tagged as place=village nodes!

Those ITP thingies suggest private land plots, with areas in hectares.

P.S. I’ve corrected the tags for you in the meanwhile, per this tip. Well, I used to think it was impossible to display images stored on Google Drive too.

Just wondering if these Pulau Lim Kit Siang, Pulau Lim Guan Eng, Pulau Anwar Ibrahim, Pulau Nurul Izzah Anwar & others are valid and real island names ?

Noo, actually this is a little test to see whether some organization is violating the OSM map at that time… See https://gizmodo.com/the-fake-places-that-only-exist-to-catch-copycat-cartog-1695414770/ All of those islands named after some politicians… But I think I should remove it, and sorry about that if had caused any inconvenience to you.

btw, You are quite observant…

I’ve just encountered another big problem. Somebody is expanding non-existent street names.

For example: jalan pjs 1/30 has been changed to jalan petaling jaya selatan 1/30. found another somewhere KJ has been expanded to Kinrara jaya or some sort.

this is a highly irresponsible act. the street signboards uses PJS, the businesses uses pjs too. osmands routing software couldn’t find it either, and i had to resort to google map to see where it is.

That’s Kaart’s handiwork from last year. Someone from their team did ask me a few questions about these street names, but definitely for random places. I could only recall discussing around Bandar Laguna Merbok township in Sungai Petani, Kedah with Jalan BLM x scheme. I strongly urged them to leave mapped street names as they are (Jalan BLM x scheme) rather than expanding it into supposedly their “full form”. Also, because I stressed enough that I’ve been mapping around there as well, there’s that.

If this got in the way during arguments, well, then, wait until they see this.

Fast forward, few months later. Some street names with capitalised case (because they’re acronyms), were changed into proper sentence cases e.g. Jalan ABRACADABRA were edited into Jalan Abracadabra, too. :rage:

Short names or full names… Asian people seem to prefer the short version - “KL” instead of Kuala Lumpur.
In 2010, I travelled to Kerala (India). My first hotel was in Kochi, Durbar Hall Road. According to my GPS, I was already about to arrive there, but I hadn’t seen a road sign for Durbar Hall Road yet. Perhaps it was just on a junction with another road, and that perpendicular road the correct name… Till I found out that “DH Road” was already Durbar Hall Road. European would shorten that to Durbar Hall rd., not DH Road. “Who’s ‘rd’?” would Indians - and likely also Malaysians - wonder.
Later on, I learned that virtually every village has an MG road. Can you translate it?

Depends though. We’d still go the short form as written on the road signs. (the long form is probably used as quick reference by people in the related adminstration/maintenance department only just so they know which part of the city the street is). Can you imagine how long the road signs would be if it is truly the unabbreviated version? we probably couldn’t even fully read it in time while passing by in our cars. :smiley:

BTW, this happened in some districts Negeri Sembilan, where the the letters on the roadsigns are too small and additionally crowded with jawi letterings on top. Basically none of the photos that I took during that journey was readable. Hell, I could only make out the spelling when the road signs are about 20 meters in front of the car. Somebody in the district office probably forgot to refer to the road department standards for road signs.

This is from the first page of this topic:

Seriously this is going to mess up other related landuses. Want to map a retail landuse? Your editor will kindly remind you not to map overlapping landuses. Had fun once in Kota Bharu. Ouch ouch ouch ouch.

1500+ map changes through the MAPS.ME app. 100% of them. Not sure how this user gets land parcel (lot) numbers from, in which they are mapped as literally a thousand plus apartments. And many other things.