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#51 2019-02-25 18:28:52

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

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#52 2019-02-25 18:33:55

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

As I try to file a ticket, I realized that it was already reported by issue #2862 and turns out to be a subset of the problem of issue#2208 https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … ssues/2208

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#53 2019-02-27 02:13:13

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

There is a new PR on the Openstreetmap-carto Github page which would switch this style to water polygons instead of land polygons.

However, some users reported problems with the simplified water polygon shapefiles when this change was attempted in 2016. We believe the problem is no longer present, because the German map style is using these shapefiles without problems, but it needs testing. If you were one of the affected users, please try out the change on your server.

The branch is available at:
https://github.com/jeisenbe/openstreetm … n-polygons

New PR:
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … /pull/3694

Old issue:
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … ssues/2101

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#54 2019-05-02 18:25:44

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

New release (v4.21.0) is out and waits for deployment, read about the changes here:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman/diary/155756

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#55 2019-05-06 10:51:36

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

New release is on hold, since it contains regressions, wait for v4.21.1:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … ssues/3736

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#56 2019-09-07 02:55:58

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.22.0 is available for more than a week already:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman/diary/390578

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#57 2019-09-20 13:45:38

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.23.0 is out, but the deployment has not yet started:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jose … ary/390751

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#58 2019-11-11 21:01:38

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OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.24.1 is being deployed - basically v4.24.0, but without water color change:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jose … ary/391049

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#59 2020-02-01 03:52:34

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New release (v4.25.0) is out, but not yet deployed:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … ag/v4.25.0

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#60 2020-02-18 07:55:09

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

Kocio, is it ok to drop an issue here? In the Netherlands we are dealing with mtb trails which are only accessible for mtb bikes (often with a permit), but are tagged with bicycle=designated and highway=path. They render on osm (and also on my OFM) as regular bike paths (blue dotted lines) but are totally different. Question is, can Osm carto make a difference here and how?

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Question moved to https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtop … 84#p777684

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#61 2020-02-18 07:59:22

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

I think the best place to discuss such specific problem is to open ticket on GitHub:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … rto/issues

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#62 2020-02-18 08:07:46

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Ok, I'll better start a new topic. I rather will not drop an issue if it is a mappers problem. I would like to know first if and how osm carto makes a difference between those paths before complaining it is a fault of the renderer.

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#63 2020-03-29 18:09:30

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

OSM Carto 5.0.0 has been recently released and is being deployed on OSMF servers:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … 2020-03-18

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#64 2020-04-11 21:02:15

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

OSM Carto 5.1.0 has been released yestarday and is being deployed on OSMF servers:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … 2020-04-10

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#65 2020-05-09 01:48:41

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Version 5.2.0 is out and deployment has been already started:

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … -2020-05-8

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#66 2020-07-01 15:03:12

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

Hey!

I have a question regarding Carto. Does anyone know how to export a map as a picture? Can't make it work.

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#67 2020-07-07 20:39:57

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GustavElf wrote:

Hey!

I have a question regarding Carto. Does anyone know how to export a map as a picture? Can't make it work.

Do you know the features listed at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Export ?

Please tell us what worked for you, and what solution failed and why.

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#68 2021-02-09 13:43:26

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

New version (5.3.1) is already deployed:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman/diary/395608
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman/diary/395675

The only visual changes are for mini-roundabouts (rendered like a turning circle) and amenity=embassy is no longer rendered (office=diplomatic with diplomatic=embassy or diplomatic=consulate is visible instead with new icons).

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#69 2021-02-09 20:44:20

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Re: OpenStreetMap Carto (default map on OSM.org)

kocio wrote:

The only visual changes are for mini-roundabouts (rendered like a turning circle) and amenity=embassy is no longer rendered (office=diplomatic with diplomatic=embassy or diplomatic=consulate is visible instead with new icons).


really? This is a change in paradigm, isn’t it? OpenStreetMap carto used to give precedence to the established tagging methods, and amenity=embassy still has  4690 uses https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=embassy
while diplomatic=embassy has only slightly more with 6216 uses

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#70 2021-02-09 20:51:58

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#71 2021-02-10 01:11:52

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kocio wrote:

To be fair to the readers of "talk", the post there literally suggests that there will be no change yet ("I think it's better for example to wait until the old tagging will pass much lower limit").

However, I'm sure that people are used by now to features "disappearing" from OSM Carto.  I gave up on it years ago when it decided it wanted to be "pretty" rather than "useful" (much discussed at the time - see e.g. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstr … t-49991607).  It's less of an issue that it was historically because there are lots of alteratives now, including 5 others on openstreetmap.org itself.

As with any volunteer-driven software, the maintainers decide the direction of travel (any alternative really would not make sense).  If people think that OSM Carto isn't relevant, they won't use it.

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#72 2021-02-28 19:29:34

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dieterdreist wrote:
kocio wrote:

The only visual changes are for mini-roundabouts (rendered like a turning circle) and amenity=embassy is no longer rendered (office=diplomatic with diplomatic=embassy or diplomatic=consulate is visible instead with new icons).


really? This is a change in paradigm, isn’t it? OpenStreetMap carto used to give precedence to the established tagging methods, and amenity=embassy still has  4690 uses https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=embassy
while diplomatic=embassy has only slightly more with 6216 uses

If the new scheme is used more often, why not?

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#73 2021-02-28 19:33:41

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What about healthcare = pharmacy? If there is no icon available, why not use a red dot?

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#74 2021-08-27 08:53:23

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I've noticed some inconsistent behaviour in redering landuse=grass over the amenity=parking. When the whole grass area is located within the parking area the grass is visible over the parking (as I expected it to be), but when only some part of grass area encounters the parking area, these parts of grass are not visible over the parking. Tagging of areas in both situations seems to be the same. Is it expected behavior or should it be considered as a bug?

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#75 2021-08-27 15:05:29

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There are a few places within the OSM Carto code where it uses the size of the thing being displayed to deliberately display smaller things over larger things .  I haven't checked whether that would apply here, but it's a possibility.  Looking at the four ways that you've linked, if it did it probably would explain what you are seeing.

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