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#26 2020-05-13 16:09:39

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Re: Why o why series..

kucai wrote:

I would like to thank the non-local mappers who helped map this. Not only they traced the roads, they also provided the street name.

Source: a taxi friend. Right, one person who happened to memorise 1000+ odd street names for the whole city. Spotless.

Then, this wonderful contributor naffed off to where he should be editing: closer to home I guess. At least the Data Working Group is nicer this time.

The last time I happened to get the attention from DWG was an unfortunate consequence: scraping many, many things from the Source-Which-Cannot-Be-Named. One can get away, no show, no tell, etc. but there's a trap!

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#27 2020-05-13 16:51:05

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Do not forget the great geometry of that Jl Akasia 14, consisting of several ways, ...

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#28 2020-06-03 05:55:51

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F*#k your kitchens...and toilets    #IRM

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#29 2020-06-07 05:18:01

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New batch of contract mappers from that company. Seeing their imprints on the east coast starting June. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WN0T-Ee3q4 hmm

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#30 2020-06-07 06:54:00

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Re: Why o why series..

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Sentral
Amazing user that had made some weird change around Penang, ahoo.

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#31 2020-06-07 16:19:14

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kucai wrote:

F*#k your kitchens...and toilets

I really cannot recommend building houses over roads. That will eventually lead to terrible problems. Like on the photo below, near my home:
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#32 2020-06-09 06:54:37

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What are the chances that the street in both maps have the same amount of unneeded segments?  (the one shown in JOSM is also made of 3 segments).
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#33 2020-06-09 07:48:07

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What you see, may be incorrect from ground level or any local mapper's initial hard work, etc. Bing imagery suggested the correct geometry though (Jalan Istana Kuning is a straight highway).

if it ain't broke, don't fix it

... or, in Malay, bagai tikus membaiki labu. Ta-da! The more you know. Labu is not a pumpkin, it's a pottery instead.

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I know Malaysian active mappers can be counted with hands, but it doesn't mean some places didn't get any tender love at all. There are many indirect cues and direct tools to actually find out which place has an overlord, totalitarian, authoritarian local gatekeeping mapper (like me)... also the Movement Control Order has been relaxed - which means my mapping activity would come to a minimum. Blergh, what even am I talking about.

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#34 2020-06-11 17:55:33

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angys wrote:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Sentral
Amazing user that had made some weird change around Penang, ahoo.

Another amazing user, added many suspicious road names into OSM, SEE Here

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#35 2020-06-14 17:48:49

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Apa ke masalahnya lah diorang ni... set makan buah epal ni bikin aku tension gak gayanya. Tu belum masuk bab upgrade highway classification. Kadavale..

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#36 2020-06-16 17:01:09

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Some OSM highways follow some strange logic:
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Why does the road coming from north-west turn to the left instead of continue straight on? Why do we need that extra node between the two following junctions? Why does it turn right then? And why do we have to turn two times when we just want to get straight on?

... and when you join a new way to an existing way, there's no need to hit an existing node:
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... just my everyday experience when mapping in Thailand.

Fortunately, Malaysia has much less such issues.

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#37 2020-06-17 05:17:59

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Re: Why o why series..

Bernhard Hiller wrote:

Some OSM highways follow some strange logic:
.... snip snip

Fortunately, Malaysia has much less such issues.

Are you sure?  big_smile

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#38 2020-06-17 14:14:17

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I have been noticing this guy for a while. Here, he imagines a drain across 300mtrs of  TNB land. It is unfortunate that we would be correcting these imaginative mappers' edits for years to come.

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#39 2020-06-17 16:48:16

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kucai wrote:

he imagines a drain

... next to "Lorong Bersih". Hope the water in the drain is clean, too. Or did the drain end in Nirwana?

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#40 2020-06-19 05:25:22

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#41 2020-06-19 09:51:30

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You want me to fix this mess? The relation didn't break at Tasik Raban. Tasik Chenderoh itself doesn't extend all the way up like the way it was traced since one can see where the river started turning into a lake.

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#42 2020-06-19 12:20:45

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Re: Why o why series..

kucai wrote:

https://i.imgur.com/b3VJnAD.jpg
You want me to fix this mess? The relation didn't break at Tasik Raban. Tasik Chenderoh itself doesn't extend all the way up like the way it was traced since one can see where the river started turning into a lake.

Likely, but I saw the forest were gone and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/31592 … /100.97924 here got one point dragged to Hulu Perak, so there must be something error recently.

UPDATE, I think I fix the error already, just need to do some rectify until layer 17.

Last edited by angys (2020-06-19 14:07:23)

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#43 2020-06-23 14:23:56

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#44 2020-06-25 18:27:48

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Re: Why o why series..

angys wrote:

There's a hiking trail taking inspiration from the MRT system and its stations apparently.

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Macam mana orang tak bengang? Diorang dapat gaji, kita habis duit minyak, tak pun penat lelah kayuh basikal. Sebab tu ada mapper jiran sebelah (bukan bishe-bishe punya orang tau), terus merajuk, berhenti update peta.

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#45 2020-06-26 18:05:37

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Also interesting to note is the "No Entry Private Orchard" view point name.

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#46 2020-06-28 08:51:37

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Re: Why o why series..

So what is the meaning of this one?
- terus merajuk, berhenti update peta

I cam understand as they remote Indon mappers keep doing annoying jobs, and then stop to update the map? But they are still here, isnt it?

But surely after 5 or 10 years, OSM will be truly different and now we are in the hard time to collecting information. But really Street level imagery helps a lot, there are 10,000+ feature can be mapped into OSM .

AkuAnakTimur wrote:
angys wrote:

There's a hiking trail taking inspiration from the MRT system and its stations apparently.

https://cf.mastohost.com/v1/AUTH_91eb37 … 4c385b.png

Macam mana orang tak bengang? Diorang dapat gaji, kita habis duit minyak, tak pun penat lelah kayuh basikal. Sebab tu ada mapper jiran sebelah (bukan bishe-bishe punya orang tau), terus merajuk, berhenti update peta.

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#47 2020-06-30 07:00:53

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Re: Why o why series..

angys wrote:

So what is the meaning of this one?

Well, a very enthusiastic mapper (started mapping from 2009!) got burnt out seeing precious mapping effort, collected on the ground, is replaced with misleading edits made by multiple remote editing teams. So the mapper decided to stop mapping altogether.

angys wrote:

we are in the hard time to collecting information

More local mappers would help (since the borders are sealed off) wink well, if they could contribute regularly and didn't simply copy from another map.

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#48 2020-07-01 15:18:09

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Haa.. tepuk.. sad

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#49 2020-07-03 21:23:57

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https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/3.3102/101.3546
Feel free to update the FT58 from Assam Jawa to Ijok, road widening work already done based on recent crispy ranggup (really) street level imagery. (and also new WCE Interchange u/c along the road). I had updated from Bandar Seri Coafields to Ijok but to tired to finished all of them.

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#50 2020-07-06 07:50:48

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You see this
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then you see this in real life.
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why???

God damn it...

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