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#26 2019-08-27 16:52:19

alester
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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

henke54 wrote:

also according Mateusz Konieczny, who 'delete things willingly' , is a 'dictionary' the same as a wikipedia-quote ? I thought that wikipedia and OSM rather would be 'collaborating' ?

The point Mateusz was making was that the pages you created didn't have any OSM-related content. There was no description of how the tag is used, what other related tags could be used, no Taginfo box showing the amount of usage, etc. You didn't even have a link to the higher-level tag (e.g. tower:type). All you had was a dictionary definition, which doesn't help anyone with mapping. We aren't duplicating Wikipedia in this wiki; we're documenting how tags are used in the OSM database.

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#27 2019-08-27 19:12:01

henke54
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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

alester wrote:
henke54 wrote:

also according Mateusz Konieczny, who 'delete things willingly' , is a 'dictionary' the same as a wikipedia-quote ? I thought that wikipedia and OSM rather would be 'collaborating' ?

The point Mateusz was making was that the pages you created didn't have any OSM-related content. There was no description of how the tag is used, what other related tags could be used, no Taginfo box showing the amount of usage, etc. You didn't even have a link to the higher-level tag (e.g. tower:type). All you had was a dictionary definition, which doesn't help anyone with mapping. We aren't duplicating Wikipedia in this wiki; we're documenting how tags are used in the OSM database.

OK, tnx for clearing that up wink ... but it seems that some kind of Internal error(Fatal exception of type "Error" ) has happened in the links from above ... and i am not involved in that ... neutral

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#28 2019-08-27 23:57:34

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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

henke54 wrote:

it seems that some kind of Internal error(Fatal exception of type "Error" ) has happened in the links from above ... and i am not involved in that ...


yes, earlier today the wiki broke down, but it is back up now.

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#29 2019-08-28 08:19:02

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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

dieterdreist wrote:
henke54 wrote:

it seems that some kind of Internal error(Fatal exception of type "Error" ) has happened in the links from above ... and i am not involved in that ...


yes, earlier today the wiki broke down, but it is back up now.

Someone said to me that there are no brackets allowed in tag-titles ...  so, is Tag:landform=dune(s) allowed or not ?  ...  there is also a Tag:landform=dune which should actually plural ...  = Tag:landform=dunes (if brackets are not allowed)
Is it true that brackets are not allowed in tag-titles ?

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#30 2019-08-28 09:32:45

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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

it was a general error not specifically  related to your page

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#31 2019-08-28 09:55:49

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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

dieterdreist wrote:

it was a general error not specifically  related to your page

thank you wink ... also, i just want to know, if brackets are allowed in tag-titles or not, because i wanted to 'make' the Tag:landform=dune(s) (without brackets if it is not allowed) ... because there are several 'dune-areas' in my country ...coastal dunes, but also dunes inland ->
https://www.ivn.nl/afdeling/groene-zoom … lareduinen
kriekelareduinen.imgp2688k.jpg?itok=xvRdhxwP&timestamp=1487234616

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#32 2019-08-28 17:04:46

alester
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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

henke54 wrote:

... also, i just want to know, if brackets are allowed in tag-titles or not, because i wanted to 'make' the Tag:landform=dune(s) (without brackets if it is not allowed) ... because there are several 'dune-areas' in my country ...coastal dunes, but also dunes inland

I don't understand why you want brackets in the tag. I can't remember ever seeing a tag with brackets in it like that, and I expect many mappers would be confused about why the "(s)" is there. Is it because you want this tag to serve two purposes: both to tag a single dune and to tag an area of many dunes? Mixing definitions like that will make things tougher for data consumers, because it will be harder for them to tell which case has been mapped for a given object. There need to be separate tags for these two cases.

For single dunes, we already have the established tag natural=dune, so there isn't a need for another one.

For an area of many dunes, I wouldn't be opposed to landform=dunes. That being said, this tag hasn't been used even once, so creating a page for it would be premature. You should start in the mailing lists to see if others agree and then start a proposal.

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#33 2019-08-28 21:20:01

henke54
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Re: Landcover-Natural-Surface ... Confusing !

alester wrote:

Is it because you want this tag to serve two purposes: both to tag a single dune and to tag an area of many dunes?

yes ... and IF those round brackets(parentheses) are allowed, it could also be used on (for example) a Tag:landcover=tree(s), so that a 'single tree' or a 'tree row' also could be a 'landcover' ...

alester wrote:

Mixing definitions like that will make things tougher for data consumers, because it will be harder for them to tell which case has been mapped for a given object.

a single dune-top(for example with a name) could be a single node ... a 'ridge' of dunes could be ways ... and multple dunes an area

alester wrote:

For single dunes, we already have the established tag natural=dune, so there isn't a need for another one.

as Warin61 also says ; ->

alester wrote:

For an area of many dunes, I wouldn't be opposed to landform=dunes. That being said, this tag hasn't been used even once, so creating a page for it would be premature. You should start in the mailing lists to see if others agree and then start a proposal.

I thought that Warin61 already started this in mailing list ...

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