OpenStreetMap Forum

The Free Wiki World Map

You are not logged in.

#26 2019-06-21 09:49:16

ika-chan!
Member
Registered: 2016-10-23
Posts: 96

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

exit_to=* can definitely go, as it has been replaced by destination=*.

I am neutral on the naming of interchanges, but leaning towards leaving “Κόμβος” out as with most of Mainland Europe.

I have removed quite a lot of names=* and ref=* on motorway_links recently.

There is a case for using junction:ref=* is an active tag to identify members of a numbered junction. Outside of Greece, major users include the Netherlands and the United States. There is no obsession with using the tag out of thin air. It does not replace using junction numbers (ref=*) on the motorway junction node.

It is important to remember that just because a tag is widely used does not mean that one must use them in practice.

Last edited by ika-chan! (2019-06-21 13:42:31)


No one has to be 100% perfect at OpenStreetMap.

Offline

#27 2019-06-22 12:20:07

Map-Finder
Member
Registered: 2018-12-11
Posts: 133

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

The names of the Interchanges are officially named by each road operator.
Here in Greece, except Attiki odos, we don't use numbers but names on exits.
Beside, except Attiki odos, all other highways do not have officially numbered junctions.
All numbering is based on Wikipedia, since the Greek State doesn't care about it but only for toll tickets!

Offline

#28 2019-06-22 16:28:20

ika-chan!
Member
Registered: 2016-10-23
Posts: 96

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

That was by former editor George_ath (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/35494026/history). I didn’t want to touch the numbers, in case I accidentally screwed up on something, and because there are junction numbers outside the A6/A62/A64/A642/A65, even if not for all junctions in the country.

Examples:
A7 - https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/g8X_W4kO-lQqbWDdK4FWaQ
A71 - https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/dhaniVz97AMevhheTnjHDA
A8 - https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/COmVbvVlsZ6QXdYBekCzzw

Last edited by ika-chan! (2019-06-22 16:30:51)


No one has to be 100% perfect at OpenStreetMap.

Offline

#29 2019-06-22 22:47:53

Map-Finder
Member
Registered: 2018-12-11
Posts: 133

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

You are right, I missed these numbering.
At least at A1 there is not official numbering.

Offline

#30 2019-06-25 07:25:21

Map-Finder
Member
Registered: 2018-12-11
Posts: 133

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

I would like to ask, if the entrance of "rest_area" and "services" on highways should be junctions or not.

Offline

#31 2019-06-25 16:59:52

ika-chan!
Member
Registered: 2016-10-23
Posts: 96

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

It turns out that officially, the exit node to the rest area should use highway=motorway_junction, and not highway=services, but the latter seemed appropriate if there was no public exit to another road.*

Source: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag … 3Dservices

* I say “public exit”, because many motorway services in Greece have “secret” entrances from other roads: they are not meant to be used by the public, but the enforcement of the use of secret entrances varies a lot.


No one has to be 100% perfect at OpenStreetMap.

Offline

#32 2019-06-25 20:36:38

Map-Finder
Member
Registered: 2018-12-11
Posts: 133

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

These roads are service roads and not official exits.
By the way, on services area I found the services tag on the beginning of motorway junction.
Should I remove it or not?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map= … 3/22.46761

Offline

#33 2019-06-25 22:22:38

ika-chan!
Member
Registered: 2016-10-23
Posts: 96

Re: [RfC] Mapping grade-separated junctions.

I agree that the service area exit nodes may be untagged, but I wish for the information on the nodes to be merged into the polygons that represent the boundary of the service area.


No one has to be 100% perfect at OpenStreetMap.

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB