Proposed moderator for Greece forum

Any news???

the main issue is the fragmentation of the community, there are active editors that do not participate in decisions through this forum, there are other cooperating with telegram (direct and fast) which people from here decided to ignore. I believe the main reason is this kind of pointless discussion where someone tries to take control, i wish some people could stop caring so much about “winning” an argument and care about mapping. Here we have a self-deleted editor that is not mapping any more, just arguing about everything. I got tired of all this, thats why i was absent. I do not want map-finder as moderator because everything will be difficult, we would have endless arguments for everything

Agreed with JayCBR.
If someone is going to mod this forum, i propose JayCBR, for many reasons.

Anyway, all guides and instructions are already in Greek OpenstreetMap WIki. If Map-Finder wants to make some guides for things that are not already there, he is welcome to do it.
This forum is not meant for detailed guides and instructions.

Instructions are not included in Greek Wiki.
I am talking about the web editor of OpenStreetMap, through “https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit” and not the naming.
There is not common way how to make a toll station, so I found 3-4 ways of mapped toll stations.
There is not common way how to make a road cross, so I found 3-4 ways of mapped road crosses.
There is not common way how to make a gas-fuel station, so very few had street heading to the stations.
There is not common way how to make a road, so basically information are missing (surface, lanes, int_name and few more)
This is what I mean.
Making a sticky thread, with captured photos, any new user will see how a good job should be done.
He will read about the basic steps. There will be an order.
If i will become mod, i will not bother about the other members’posts. I will only take care the threads about “HOW TO…”
@nikospag If all those above are found in Greek Wiki, show me the threads.
Both me and JayCBR should be mods at same time, with different roles in the forum.

I strongly object to JayCBR as a moderator, due to the fact that the user moved national road numbers from ref=* to nat_ref=* against general consensus, and made it as if we agreed to the changes, which we never did.

In my opinion, such a move was pure deceit, despite the fact that signs that show the National Road numbers are making a bit of a comeback on motorways.

See: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=744353#p744353

Ok then. I propose ika-chan! (if real life allows him/her to apply for this task)
If not, then we don’t need any moderator.

@ika-chan! We will resolve this ref and nat_ref issue, don’t worry.

ika-chan! Its funny the way you object to everything i say or do, but you dont say anything when others make mass edits in road names etc without telling anyone. When we agree on something you keep doing what you like, so dont tell me i m deceiving you

@Map-Finder I haven’t found any translations of yours in our Wiki. Can you point me where to look please?
Thank you.

Does anyone understands the meaning of this? What web editor has to do with Greek Wiki? and what he means with the word “naming”?

Μερικά παραδείγματα για τα οποία δεν λέω πως είναι επακριβώς ορθά, αλλά κάποιος πρέπει να κάνει την αρχή:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q5041
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q4882
Όποια συνεισφορά για διόρθωση - συμπλήρωση είναι πάντα ευπρόσδεκτη.

First of all: Greek OpenStreetMap is in English.
Second: When I say naming, I mean that gives instructions how to name a road and not how to make on map basic structures.

My idea is to give instructions on how to make basic structures on map (tolls, junctions, gas stations, ports etv) and not by personal preference.
This could be as well in Greek Wiki, but in Greek Forum will be more interactive.
A special thread in forum that I would keep in order by being moderator ONLY for this thread, I dont want to control the rest of the FORUM.

The rest of this conversation has been moved here.

It seems, that after all, the presence of a moderator has become a necessity. I had never thought that a moderator would be necessary in this community, but apparently it does.
So i strongly recommend to our community to vote for a moderator.

I think that 3 votes are enough to elect a moderator (for the size of our community).
Of course kocio will make the final decision.

You can vote here, and you can vote any member of this forum except your self.

My vote is:
JayCBR

I just wanted to let you know that I’m aware of this discussion. Please vote in a clear way, because I can only translate to understand and apply final decision, the discussion is hard to follow for me.

My vote is:
JayCBR

I oppose the nomination of JayCBR for now, because I feel that he may divide the community further. I have provided plenty of evidence of his questionable edits.

I do want to reach an agreement over the uncertainties of the road network, but I cannot be sure that JayCBR will not abuse his power to silence anyone who disagrees with him, especially with regards to how he handled the Macedonian naming dispute (source).

However, I do recognise that I do have to be a bit more liberal with what the community wants, even though I already know when to step back in order to avoid any disagreements from escalating.

macedonian naming dispute?are you kidding me?i think you only try to find excuses to confront me

anyway the forum needs to be managed a little better because right now is a mess, who ever is the moderator

nothing much, just keep the discussion civilized, no more off-topics and not having new posts about pre-existing subjects

we could also vote on how to do things

the big problem is attendance and as it stands nobody would be moderator since ika-chan and george_are never going to vote for me

Please just VOTE. This thread is not the place for confrontations. Please respect the voting process.
All irrelevant comments should be deleted.

Why do we need 3 votes? The one with the most votes should become moderator.

I am happy to set aside our differences and vote for JayCBR and nikospag, since we can have more than one moderator.