Changesets reverts

Could someone check what’s wrong here? https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/32.05252/34.94248

There are two overlapping tracks (I don’t think that’s ok, even if there are two trials in the area), and too many “Track” roads inside the junction.

All the nodes of one track are also in the other track. It looks like en editing mistake since one track is part of the Israel Trail relation and the other is part of the “שביל אופניים מים לי-ם”. This is not the first time a bike trail is added on top of existing ways, rather than re-using them…

The strange junction topology error is probably a result of incorrect splitting of road 444 into two parallel tracks

Fixed in changeset 53002855

P.S., this thread is about reverting changesets, when specific changesets or users damage the map, not about other map issues.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54959183 look like private map data, can someone start reverting procedure?

The process usually starts by contacting the editor, using a comment on the changeset page, politely describing the potential issues with this edit and asking the person to correct them or agree to a revert. There are also added values to this step - the person may learn not to repeat a naive mistake and the discussion is public in case of repeated issues.

A revert can be done later if the person is either unresponsive or prefers not to correct by himself.

User ForceJ is messing with bus stops and other things. It seems the intentions are good but the edits have multiple issues. I’ve been cherrypicking the bad things to revert, but I don’t have the time. I am tempted to revert everything. What should we do? See this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55307717

Ideally we’d go through the edits, fix or revert the mistakes, and keep the good parts. Which of his changesets have you reviewed? We (collectively) can go through the rest.

I’ve reverted the bus stop changes across all changesets, plus removed several duplicate POIs. I did not thoroughly inspect the rest.

Could someone take care of https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Rafef? The user is making strange edits, such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57792287

Have you heard back from the user regarding the changset comment?
Since this is a two month old change, I think no harm will be done if we wait two weeks for a response.

As of now, I have not heard back. This changeset seems to be one out of many bad changesets, and unfortunately I don’t have the time to inspect them all. Many edits seem to be in PL territory but some are in IL territory.

Let me clarify myself. I did not suggest that anyone will review any of the other changesets, just to wait for the mapper’s response.

If there is no response to the comment on first changeset after a week, I suggest adding another comment that all the changesets will be reverted if there is no response within another week.

FYI, User [шварц миша](https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/шварц миша/history) (“mouse mouse” according to Google translate) has created 3 changesets (65253949,65279617, and 65423499) named “test 1” with various fake objects and edits.

I have reverted them all.

:lol: шварц миша translates to Mike Schwartz, sounds like someone’s actual name.

It seems that user FuxDror has changed the Mossad into a sidewalk (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240240094/history). I believe it was changeset 67419134.
He’s also made other questionable changes - in Sweden and in United Arab Emirates.
Can someone revert please?

@tdctdctdc I’d suggest commenting on the actual changesets explaining exactly what the problem is (in this case, “you changed way xyz from a military area to a sidewalk”). These comments will be emailed to the mapper and will also appear at http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4290912 , so that other people will be aware of the problem too.

It may be a mistake (they’re a new mapper) or it may be deliberate; either way I’d try and “assume good faith” and be polite in a message or changeset comment. If they don’t mean well it’ll soon be obvious.

If no-one here sorts things out you can email the Data Working Group on data@osmfoundation.org to help with reversions, but you’ll need to be a bit more specific than “He’s also made other questionable changes - in Sweden and in United Arab Emirates” - " the Mossad into a sidewalk (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/240240094/history)" is exactly the level of detail we’d need about a problem.

Best Regards,

Andy (from the DWG)

Seems like someone changed the designations again, for Highway 1, Highway 2, Highway 7 and others. It should probably be reverted unless there is a good reason for this or that road. As far as I know they are all motorways, not counting temporary works (e.g. on Highway 2).

It is not clear which sections of which roads were changed. I’ve checked a few places from memory and viewed their recordings on OpenStreetCam.

Road 1: According to the comment in changeset 69735931, the section of road 1 between Anava interchange and Sha’ar HaGay interchange is not a motorway. However, an OpenStreetCam trace taken in Aug-2018 shows that Sha’ar HaGay is a motorway interchange. I’ve left a request to the owner of the changeset asking him to join this discussion and clarify.

Road 2: South of Caesarea seems to be a trunk. An OpenStreetCam trace taken in Aug-2018 shows that Caesarea is a trunk interchange.

Road 7: An OpenStreetCam trace taken in Aug-2018 shows that it is a trunk.

Clearly, the traces are 9 month old. However, the OSM guideline is “Map what’s on the ground” and that’s the best evidence I could find.

For our reference, the OSM Israel wiki page says:

Highway 7: you are right, it is still considered a trunk, probably because they are still building two interchanges in the west (Nir Galim, Bnei Brit).

Highway 1 is now a designated motorway. Same with Highway 2, thought as I said, some parts are under repairs/expansions so there it’s not a motorway—but in that case we should add construction markings. The “normal” situation is that it’s a motorway.

However: the question is what we can consider a reliable source. If we were only mapping according to satellite or street cam imagery, we wouldn’t have a very comprehensive map. Sometimes we even import entire datasets from sources considered reliable, even though they have some mistakes. Is the company Mapa a reliable source? Is the Israel Mapping Institute? Each of these lists even more motorways, including parts of Highway 7, Highway 65 and Highway 77.

Highway 1 is now a designated motorway only west of Latrun, after that it is not (end-of-motorway signs and 90 instead of 110)…

I didn’t drive there recently, but this 2017 article claims that after the new lanes were opened, the permitted speed was raised:
https://news.walla.co.il/item/3070320

Again though, I ask what other mapping and non-mapping sources are considered “good enough”; especially with the understanding that we don’t usually have up to date street cam footage of every section of road, and designations / maximum speeds change faster than the rate at which we get such footage.