Just an idea: Although Nominatim correctly determines address tags for Curaçao as CW, it still favours the higher ranked “Koninkrijk der Nederlanden” relation for ISO code and country display. Same for the other members of that relation.
I wonder:
Should relation # 2323309 (named ‘Nederland’) (admin level 2) not be labelled ‘Koninkrijk der Nederlanden’ indeed ? It is currently just named ‘Nederland’ but it seems to include Curacao, Aruba and St. Maarten (all admin level 3). After all, there is an IMHO correct relation for ‘Nederland’ (consisting of Europe mainland Nederland plus correctly Bonaire, Saba and St. Eustatius) being # 47796.
Whether that helps the postal code problem is another question…
sincerely yours,
Marcel.
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1101-countries-compare-2017-12-06
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-05 23:03:02+01
42 Missings und eine kritische Grenze.
Gruss
walter
Yes, really strange:
key | value | value
---------------------------------+----------------------------------+----------------------------------
admin_level | 2 | 3
alt_name:cs | Nizozemí |
boundary | administrative | administrative
currency | | EUR
description | | Kingdom of the Netherlands, cons
flag | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki |
int_name | Nederland | Nederland
ISO3166-1 | NL |
ISO3166-1:alpha2 | NL |
ISO3166-1:alpha3 | NLD |
ISO3166-1:numeric | 528 |
name | Nederland | Nederland
name:ace | Blanda |
name:af | Nederland |
name:als | Niederlande |
name:am | ሆላንድ |
name:an | Países Baixos |
name:ang | Niðerland |
name:ar | هولندا |
name:arc | ܗܘܠܢܕܐ |
name:arz | نيديرلاند |
name:ast | Países Baxos | Países Baxos
name:ay | Aynacha Jach'a Markanaka |
name:az | Niderland |
name:ba | Нидерландтар |
name:bar | Holland |
name:bat-smg | Nīderlandā |
name:bcl | Nederlands |
name:be | Нідэрланды |
name:be-tarask | Нідэрлянды |
name:bg | Нидерландия |
name:bh | एम्सटर्डम |
name:bi | Netherlands |
name:bn | নেদারল্যান্ডস |
name:bo | ཧོ་ལན། |
name:bpy | নেদারল্যান্ড |
name:br | Izelvroioù |
name:bs | Holandija |
name:bug | Belanda |
name:bxr | Нидерланд |
name:ca | Països Baixos | Països Baixos
name:cdo | Hò̤-làng |
name:ce | Нидерландаш |
name:ceb | Olanda |
name:chr | ᏁᏛᎳᏂ |
name:ckb | ھۆلەند |
name:co | Paesi Bassi |
name:crh | Felemenk |
name:cs | Nizozemsko | Nizozemsko
name:csb | Néderlandzkô |
name:cu | Нидєрландꙑ |
name:cv | Нидерландсем |
name:cy | Yr Iseldiroedd |
name:da | Holland | Nederlandene
name:de | Niederlande | Niederlande
name:diq | Hollanda |
name:dsb | Nižozemska |
name:dv | ނެދަލޭންޑު |
name:dz | ནེ་དར་ལེནཌསི་ |
name:ee | Netherlands |
name:el | Κάτω Χώρες | Ολλανδία
name:en | The Netherlands | Netherlands
name:eo | Nederlando | Nederlando
name:es | Países Bajos | Países Bajos
name:et | Holland |
name:eu | Herbehereak |
name:ext | Paisis Baxus |
name:fa | هلند |
name:ff | Holannda |
name:fi | Alankomaat |
name:fiu-vro | Holland |
name:fo | Niðurlond |
name:fr | Pays-Bas | Pays-Bas
name:frp | Payis-Bâs |
name:frr | Nederlönje |
name:fur | Paîs Bas |
name:fy | Nederlân | Nederlân
name:ga | An Ísiltír |
name:gag | Niderland |
name:gan | 荷蘭 |
name:gd | Na Tìrean Ìsle |
name:gl | Países Baixos |
name:gn | Holanda |
name:gu | નેધરલેંડ |
name:gv | Yn Çheer Injil |
name:hak | Hò-làn |
name:haw | Hōlani |
name:he | הולנד |
name:hi | नीदरलैण्ड |
name:hif | The Netherlands |
name:hr | Nizozemska | Nizozemska
name:hsb | Nižozemska | Nižozemska
name:ht | Peyiba |
name:hu | Hollandia |
name:hy | Նիդերլանդներ |
name:ia | Pais Basse |
name:id | Belanda |
name:ie | Nederland |
name:ilo | Olánda |
name:io | Nederlando | Nederlando
name:is | Holland |
name:it | Paesi Bassi | Paesi Bassi
name:ja | オランダ |
name:jbo | nederland |
name:jv | Walanda |
name:ka | ნიდერლანდი |
name:kaa | Niderlandiya |
name:kbd | Нидерлэндхэр |
name:kg | Pays-Bas |
name:kk | Нидерланд |
name:kl | Hollandi |
name:kn | ನೆದರ್ಲ್ಯಾಂಡ್ಸ್ |
name:ko | 네덜란드 |
name:koi | Недерланд |
name:krc | Нидерландла |
name:ksh | Niederlande |
name:ku | Holenda |
name:kv | Нидерландъяс |
name:kw | Iseldiryow |
name:ky | Нидерландтар |
name:la | Nederlandia |
name:lad | Payises Bashos |
name:lb | Holland |
name:lez | Нидерландар |
name:li | Nederland |
name:lij | Paixi Basci |
name:lmo | Paes Bass |
name:ln | Holanda |
name:lt | Nyderlandai | Nyderlandai
name:ltg | Nīderlandeja |
name:lv | Nīderlande |
name:map-bms | Landa |
name:mdf | Недерлантт |
name:mhr | Нидерланде |
name:mi | Hōrana | Hōrana
name:min | Balando |
name:mk | Холандија |
name:ml | നെതർലന്റ്സ് |
name:mn | Нидерланд |
name:mr | नेदरलँड्स |
name:ms | Belanda |
name:mt | Pajjiżi l-Baxxi |
name:my | နယ်သာလန်နိုင်ငံ |
name:mzn | هلند |
name:na | Eben Eyong |
name:nah | Tlanitlālpan |
name:nap | Ulanna |
name:nds | Nedderlannen | Nedderlannen
name:nds-nl | Nederlaand |
name:ne | नेदरल्याण्ड्स |
name:new | नेदरल्यान्द्स् |
name:nl | Nederland | Nederland
name:nn | Nederland |
name:no | Nederland |
name:nov | Nederlande |
name:nrm | Pays Bas |
name:nv | Kéyah Wóyahgo Siʼánígíí |
name:oc | Païses Basses |
name:os | Нидерландтæ |
name:pa | ਨੀਦਰਲੈਂਡ |
name:pam | Paises Bahes |
name:pap | Hulanda |
name:pcd | Bas-Païs |
name:pdc | Holland |
name:pih | Dem Nethiland |
name:pl | Królestwo Niderlandów | Holandia
name:pms | Pais Bass |
name:pnb | نیدرلینڈز |
name:pnt | Ολλανδία |
name:ps | هالنډ |
name:pt | Países Baixos | Países Baixos
name:qu | Urasuyu |
name:rm | Pajais Bass |
name:rmy | Olanda |
name:ro | Țările de Jos |
name:roa-tara | Pajèsere Vasce |
name:ru | Нидерланды | Нидерланды
name:rue | Нідерланды |
name:rw | Ubuholandi |
name:sa | नेदरलैंड्स |
name:sah | Недерланд |
name:sc | Logos Bascios |
name:scn | Paisi Vasci |
name:sco | Netherlands |
name:se | Vuolleeatnamat |
name:sh | Holandija |
name:si | නෙදර්ලන්තය |
name:simple | Netherlands |
name:sk | Holandsko |
name:sl | Nizozemska |
name:so | Holland |
name:sq | Holanda |
name:sr | Холандија | Холандија
name:srn | Bakrakondre |
name:ss | IDashi |
name:st | Hôlanê |
name:stq | Niederlounde |
name:su | Walanda |
name:sv | Nederländerna | Nederländerna
name:sw | Uholanzi |
name:szl | Ńiderlandy |
name:ta | நெதர்லாந்து | நெதர்லாந்து
name:te | నెదర్లాండ్ |
name:tet | Olanda |
name:tg | Нидерланд |
name:th | ประเทศเนเธอร์แลนด์ |
name:tk | Niderlandlar |
name:tl | Olanda |
name:to | Holani |
name:tpi | Ol Nitelan |
name:tr | Hollanda |
name:tt | Нидерландлар |
name:tzl | Päts-Bäts | Päts-Bäts
name:udm | Нидерланд |
name:ug | گوللاندىيە |
name:uk | Нідерланди | Нідерланди
name:ur | ہالینڈ |
name:uz | Niderlandlar |
name:vec | Paéxi Basi |
name:vep | Alamad |
name:vi | Hà Lan |
name:vls | Holland |
name:vo | Nedän | Nedän
name:wa | Bas Payis |
name:war | Nederlandes |
name:wo | Olaand |
name:wuu | 尼德兰 |
name:xal | Недерлендин Нутг |
name:xh | ENetherlands |
name:xmf | ნიდერლანდი |
name:yi | האלאנד |
name:yo | Nẹ́dálándì |
name:zea | Nederland |
name:zh | 荷蘭 |
name:zh-classical | 荷蘭 |
name:zh-min-nan | Hô-lân-kok |
name:zh-yue | 荷蘭 |
name:zu | Netherlands |
note | This is the whole kingdom. See s |
official_name | Koninkrijk der Nederlanden |
official_name:ca | Regne dels Països Baixos |
official_name:cs | Nizozemské království |
official_name:de | Königreich der Niederlande |
official_name:el | Βασίλειο των Κάτω Χωρών |
official_name:en | Kingdom of the Netherlands |
official_name:eo | Reĝlando Nederlando |
official_name:es | Reino de Los Paises Bajos |
official_name:fi | Alankomaiden kuningaskunta |
official_name:fr | Royaume des Pays-Bas |
official_name:nds | Königriek vun de Nedderlannen |
official_name:nl | Koninkrijk der Nederlanden |
old_name:cs | Holandsko |
population | | 17000000
timezone | | Europe/Amsterdam
TMC:cid_58:tabcd_1:Class | | Are
TMC:cid_58:tabcd_1:LCLversion | | 8.00
TMC:cid_58:tabcd_1:LocationCode | | 4
wikidata | Q29999 | Q55
wikipedia | nl:Koninkrijk der Nederlanden | nl:Nederland
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That can’t be true. i agree that the AL2 relation should be modified to be more specific.
Regards
walter
Even stranger:
Do I see here that Admin Level 3 has a description of ‘Kingdom of the Netherlands, cons’ - what does the ‘cons’ -part mean ?
It looks like ‘Kingdom of the Netherlands’ should be level 2, and ‘the Netherlands’ level 3.
Likewise int_name ‘Koninkrijk der Nederlanden’ on level 2, ‘Nederland’ on level 3.
And additionally I wonder whether the quoted ISO-3166 -codes should not be put on level 3 instead of level 2.
Most name:xxx descriptions currently under level 2 should also be level 3, I fear … (and on some of them, like the DAnish ‘Holland’ for level 2 vs. ‘Nederland’ for level 3 I have serious doubts).
Oh boy, my country seems really messed up.
Marcel.
Are you able - and willing to change some of them? Starting with some names? and ignoring the translations at first?
i think, its better a local mapper will do that.
walter
no, they are looking ok to me. ISO-3166-1 is for countries. But level 3 needs additional ISO-Codes ISO3166-2, i think. i’ll check that at the ISO webpage.
walter
see https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:NL
edit: seems, there are NO AL3 in the netherlands anyhow 
One of the basic issues here is the question: ‘What is a country ?’. The UN (or at least it’s statistical department) defines it differently as others. The UN wants a country in principle to have a permanent representation at the UN. ISO is more relaxed and pragmatical. However, in the Kingdom of the Netherlands (the level 2 thus) there are 4 separate countries (on level 3 thus) where 1 of these takes care of all foreign business on behalf of all 4. That makes Aruba, Curacao and St. Maarten not really totally a country according to UN norms, with the result that those 3 have both a separate 3166 code (like ‘AW’ for Aruba) AND a (another) 3166-2 code, like ‘NL-AW’. Confused ? You would be right.
Sag mal: would this be causing the postal code problems ?
That Bonaire, Saba and St. Eustatius as sub-entity of Nederland have a common separate country code ‘BQ’ is not logical at all - certainly not from UN point-of-view. But they may have been needed for another reason: those islands have the USD as official currency, and otherwise (being level 2 -labelled as ‘NL’) a lot of computer systems might have assumed they would use EUR which could cause issues in banking and payment systems (this is a true story, actually).
I’m fully willing to clean-up my country (administratively); but only after consulting the NL user forum.
off to cooking now !
Marcel.
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1102-countries-compare-2017-12-07
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-06 23:03:02+01
32 Missings und zwei kritische Grenzen.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1103-countries-compare-2017-12-08
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-07 23:03:02+01
32 Missings und 5 kritische Grenzen.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1104-countries-compare-2017-12-09
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-08 23:02:02+01
14 Missings und eine kritische Grenze.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1105-countries-compare-2017-12-10
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-09 23:03:02+01
6 Missings und keine kritische Grenze.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1106-countries-compare-2017-12-11
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-10 23:03:02+01
15 Missings und 8 kritische Grenzen.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
heute mal keine Auswertung, da es kleinere technische Probleme gab.
no evaluation today because of minor technical problems.
Walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1107-countries-compare-2017-12-13
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-12 23:03:02+01
52 Missings und 7 kritische Grenzen.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1108-countries-compare-2017-12-14
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-13 23:03:02+01
99 Missings und eine kritische Grenze.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1109-countries-compare-2017-12-15
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-14 23:02:03+01
61 Missings und 5 kritische Grenzen.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1110-countries-compare-2017-12-16
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-15 23:03:02+01
49 Missings und 4 kritische Grenzen.
Gruss
walter
Moin,
hier die aktuelle Missing Boundaries-Auswertung: https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/1111-countries-compare-2017-12-17
Der Datenstand ist vom 2017-12-16 23:03:02+01
19 Missings und 4 kritische Grenzen.
Gruss
walter