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#26 2015-10-13 23:18:28

anatoly77g
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Registered: 2014-04-27
Posts: 17

Re: Changesets reverts

This user sivan00 has done a few problematic (unless someone convinces me otherwise) changes: changing "highway=path" to "highway=track" on some ways:

example, example, example (twice).

I tried to contact him through Open Street Map messaging 10 days ago; got no reply.

So I have two questions, one technical and one administrative.

1) How can I review the changesets that this user did? (I expect there to be a lot of helpful changes and a few problematic ones)
2) What should we do? I have changed the "highway" type on some of these ways myself in the past; if I do anything now it might be interpreted as an edit war.

Also, do we even care? A distinction between "path" and "track", while important for me, is maybe not so important for most people?

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#27 2015-10-14 19:58:05

yrtimiD
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From: Israel
Registered: 2010-10-08
Posts: 228

Re: Changesets reverts

anatoly77g,
I think the only way to review all changesets is to go one by one, I don't see any faster way.
You can use Achavi Boomarklet to make review easier.

If you are sure that these roads are tracks - just change them back. Even wiki suggests this:

If a path is wide enough for 4-wheel-vehicles (width > 2 m), and it is not legally signposted or otherwise only allowed for pedestrians, cyclists or horseriders, it is often better tagged as a highway=track or highway=service.

Maybe will not harm to recheck them after some time to ensure this user doesn't make same mistake again.

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#28 2015-10-14 21:00:14

anatoly77g
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Registered: 2014-04-27
Posts: 17

Re: Changesets reverts

Maybe it wasn't clear from my post - these are not "track"s. There is no way a vehicle can pass there. These are hiking trails.
Actually, I daresay that one of them is the most important hiking trail in Israel!

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#29 2015-10-14 21:04:47

yrtimiD
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From: Israel
Registered: 2010-10-08
Posts: 228

Re: Changesets reverts

Sorry, that was my fault smile
But same rule applies: if you sure - change it! smile

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#30 2016-04-01 15:28:43

zstadler
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Registered: 2012-05-05
Posts: 256
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Re: Changesets reverts

I have tried to contact the user sivan00 about several edits, but got no answer. Since the messages were sent, the user continued to be very active editing the map, as seen in the user's history.

Is there something else that can be done to get sivan00's attention before contacting the Data working group with a suspicion of vandalism!?

Zeev

On 19-Mar-2016 I wrote in Hebrew about 4 questionable edits in changeset 37367934:

Subject: changeset 37367934

שלום סיון

.אני מעריך מאד את העריכות שלך ואת השיפורים המתמידים שנכנסים למפה בעזרתם

עם זאת, יש לי מספר שאלות על השינויים שעשית ב
changeset 37367934

הנושא הראשון הוא שינוי השם הלועזי של הישוב עזוז. על פי רשימת יישובים בישראל, השם הוא
EZUZ
:כמו שהיה לפני השינוי שלך באופן דומה, גם השינוי בשם הלועזי של ניצני סיני לא תואם את השם הרשמי
NIZZANE SINAY

הנושא השני הוא מחיקה כאן של הסימון
landuse=military
בעוד שעל פי הויקי היה צריך היה להשאיר את הסימון הזה גם לאחר הוספת הסימון
military=range

הנושא השלישי הוא שינוי גבולות שמורת טבע חולות עגור. גבולות השמורה נלקחו ממידע גאוגרפי של משרד הפנים, על פי תוכנית 52/101/02/20, כפי שמצויין בשדה
.ref
?על סמך מה שינית את הגבולות

,בברכה
זאב

On 23-Mar-2016 I wrote in English

Subject: Repeated highway type changes in way316038571

Hello Sivan,

On 31-Dec-2015, In changeset 36281837 you have changed way 316038571 from a path to a track.

This was after your previous change from path to track, changeset 32598264, was reverted in changeset 35265956 with a clear note:

"שינוי סיווג שביל ישראל לשביל בנחל גשרון לשביל רגל , זו בהחלט לא דרך רכב. "
(Change Israel Trail to a path at Nahal Gshron, this is definitely not a track)

Can you elaborate on the reasons that caused this repeated change?

A few days ago I've sent you a message in Hebrew with several questions on another changes. I'd appreciate a response to my e-mails.

I see that you are a very active mapper. It's OK if any of the changes was done by mistake.

Thanks, Zeev

Last edited by zstadler (2016-04-01 15:47:36)

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#31 2016-04-03 15:34:56

valleyofdawn
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Registered: 2010-11-14
Posts: 210

Re: Changesets reverts

Here he reveals his name, if it's helpful.

http://forum.mapfactor.com/discussion/6906

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#32 2016-04-04 09:12:59

zstadler
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Registered: 2012-05-05
Posts: 256
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Re: Changesets reverts

I have forwarding my above post to sivan00 in a private message and to reply in this forum.
Yesterday I received a response in a private massage.

I've asked sivan00 again to respond in this thread since the issues are not private.

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#33 2016-04-04 17:35:43

valleyofdawn
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Registered: 2010-11-14
Posts: 210

Re: Changesets reverts

I hope he is responsive. Lots of damage, also in דרך המעיינות near Ein Carem.

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#34 2016-04-10 07:43:50

sivan00
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Registered: 2016-04-10
Posts: 1

Re: Changesets reverts

Folks,
I'm terribly sorry if some errors were introduced as part of the modifications/corrections I have been making to OSM. Throughout my work I have encountered countless number of errors and corrected them to the best of my knowledge. If in some cases, someone thinks I made a mistake he is welcome to correct it. I the future, I will avoid correcting trails I'm not sure of, as this seems to be the main issue here.

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#35 2016-04-10 12:50:38

valleyofdawn
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Registered: 2010-11-14
Posts: 210

Re: Changesets reverts

Dear Sivan,

Mistakes happen, especially if you're new to this and that's okay. We appreciate your enthusiasm in correcting OSM mistakes.
That said, you seem to have introduced countless misrepresentations of paths as tracks. Think of all the grief caused to people planning 4x4 trips based on OSM and getting stuck. I believe it is your responsibility, rather thand the community's, to go over these errors and correct them one by one.

Thanks

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#36 2017-05-19 14:38:31

SwiftFast
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

Sorry for missing this thread. I should have posted my previous reverts here. User Haim Eliezer Rogovin appears to be creating random castles. Two reverts so far.

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#37 2017-05-19 15:48:41

SwiftFast
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

I've reverted three changesets so far. User unresponsive to PMs or discussion comments.

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#38 2017-05-19 16:04:44

SomeoneElse
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Registered: 2010-10-13
Posts: 642

Re: Changesets reverts

I've sent them a "message that has to be read before continuing mapping" in case they're just not seeing emails for whatever reason:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/1353

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#39 2017-05-19 17:06:28

SwiftFast
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

Thank you smile

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#40 2017-06-12 18:43:08

SwiftFast
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

I removed 8-year old vandalism nodes.

Interestingly, they were introduced by an apparently good user with lots of good contributions. I'd advise scanning the user's history to see if more bad nodes were pushed among the good ones.

Last edited by SwiftFast (2017-06-12 18:48:01)

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#41 2017-06-27 20:53:10

SwiftFast
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

As expected, user had other issues.

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#42 2017-07-06 15:39:36

SwiftFast
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

I reverted a cafe spam in the Gaza strip. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Samir2017

I think the user should be suspended. Totally unresponsive. I PMed the DWG.

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#43 2017-09-18 08:52:22

SwiftFast
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

Can anyone check if this parking lot is still there? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/51621119

A new user deleted it (and not fully). And this might be a mistake needing revert.

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#44 2017-09-22 12:22:06

anonymous_gushdan_mapper
Member
Registered: 2016-12-17
Posts: 11

Re: Changesets reverts

SwiftFast wrote:

Can anyone check if this parking lot is still there? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/51621119

A new user deleted it (and not fully). And this might be a mistake needing revert.

I think the edit is probably correct, judging by Tel Aviv's GIS system - the 2016 aerial photo shows the parking lot, but the 2017 aerial photo shows the entire stadium is now a construction site.

https://gisn.tel-aviv.gov.il/iview2js/i … pacity=0.9

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#45 2017-09-23 22:10:24

SafwatHalaby
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Registered: 2017-04-10
Posts: 263
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Re: Changesets reverts

Thank you for the info. I've removed the forgotten highway part.

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