Keeping an eye on the map

We were aware of the user already (they were blocked previously in https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/961 ). Looking at that day I see 17 DWG-related emails one of which (after cross-referencing changeset discussion comments with the forum name here) I presume was from you. It looks like it was acted upon (some other investigation was done), but it looks like there was a misunderstanding about who was going to perform the next action, and one of the things that didn’t happen was an acknowledgement to you that your mail had been received.

Do I read “I deleted a lot of wrong things. But nothing in the last 14 days.” to mean that “there has been no problem data added by this user in the last 14 days” or “they have continued to create problems, but I have given up fixing them for the last 14 days”? If the latter, are any changesets pending revert? What I don’t want to do is to block them again if 14 days ago they started making sensible (even if not very high quality) edits to the map and stopped making fantasy ones.

One of the things mentioned so far was that they may not have a good command of English, so it would be helpful if users of this forum could regularly monitor http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions?c=India and if they see a changeset discussion comment in a language that a local mapper may not understand to add a translation. I’m guessing here that that would mean Urdu?

Hi,

I wrote three mails in past regarding this user. The other 14 are from different users. 14 days ago I tried to inform the DWG group but nothing happend. The main problem is, that he invent a lot of data thats never exist. e.g this airport : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/26.7955/82.1593
Furthermore he creates railroad station that not exists and so on. Also a lot of roads are complete / partly wrong. In this area we was mapping the correct ref numbers but he change them on his own way and invent new numbers. He mappes bridges that not exist, and so on… . I reverted that shit in the past regulary, but now he change everything in small steps. It is a lot of work to revert this shit and I have not the time to do this. Please revert everything and block this user!

Furthermore he has some other accounts. I will inform you if he activates one of them.

Best regards

To clarify - the DWG does not have a “magic wand” to wave. If someone’s been adding dubious data over a period of time, and other mappers have been active in the same area, we’d need to go through exactly the same process of untangling good edits from bad edits as anyone else would. I can understand that you “have not the time to do this”, but don’t forget that DWG members are all volunteers too! What really helps us is actionable information - a report of a fake airport with a link to the changeset is actionable; saying “a lot of roads are complete / partly wrong” and “he maps bridges that do not exist” is not without more detail. I notice that you’ve been tidying up there recently (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/454068761/history - for which thank you) but the mix of edits effectively means that a simple revert isn’t really an option.

Yeah, yet another reason why the only sensible thing a normal mapper can do in such areas, where known mass vandals are left running lose, is to quit mapping altogether. And most that are driven away will probably never return, seeing that their hard work is considered worth nothing compared to the “contributions” of vandals doing mass destruction or otherwise rendering the map useless with fantasy edits. Just because in the wildest dreams possibly 1% of vandal edits may some day be anything useful. So of course those few (if any) additions FAR outweigh all the additions by normal mappers which were destroyed or damaged before:
Thousand good contributions destroyed, map useless now? Doesn’t matter. Let them continue destroying. Click-click, poof - messed. Fun! Click-click, poof - another. That’s fine, they are welcome, proven by no one stopping them, so they happily continue.
In return they may give back two or three ‘good’ contributions some far day, possibly? Worth GOLD! Diamonds! THOSE edits are worth it to destroy countless hard work hours of normal mappers. Not only in the past, but also the future, because sooner or later most people will get the message that their work is worth absolutely nothing compared to the ‘work’ of vandals and will give up. Time is too precious to waste it for nothing.

@wycbtma , the DWG (and all the other people who try and ensure that OSM is the domain of mappers trying to represent the real world, not people just wanting to draw doodles or add spam) welcome all the help that they can get to try and identify and resolve problems. As I said previously, actionable information such as “this airport is fake” is useful. I fail to see how your post above is. If you’d like to help please do; but sitting on the sidelines and complaining won’t achieve anything.

I do not have the power to press the block-button on vandals.

Hi,

for me is the first step to block this guy permanently. Afterwards I can take care about the repair works.
Best regards

For the benefit of anyone reading this forum who may not have read it, OSMF’s policy on permanent blocks is laid out here:

http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Ban_Policy

Rajesultanpur Doharighat Road Upgrade in MDR 90A so how can add

Hello,
regarding the official UP Public works department is no road upgrade planed. You can find the actual MDRS:
http://uppwd.up.nic.in/pdf/MDR_ROAD_LIST.pdf
and here the actual updates:
http://uppwd.up.nic.in/pdf/CRN/Annexure%20B-9.1%20to%209.3%20UPGRADATION%200F%20SH-MDR-ODR.pdf

Furthermore is MDR 90A not fitting in the UP name scheme. A MDR road ends everytime with an B,C,E or W.

with best regards
grettings from gujarat

Just for info, I’ve commented on http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47289343 where a bridge location doesn’t seem to match the Bing imagery that was apparently used.

Hi,

if you mean this way :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/274078649

There is a bridge and visible in Bing. But I now I know that he active again and I have to monitor him the next days. :slight_smile:

Best regards

I meant https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/26.74465/82.09145 , actually. Bing suggests there’s a bridge to the east, not where the road allegedly crosses the river.

Ah OK, yes you are right, the next revier crossing on the right is also wrong. I reverted ALL changesets from this user in the past. But I hope everytime if he starts after some time again, that he now create some correct changesets.

Somebody have to check the area for valueable informations and revert everything else. I have no time atm.

I have been watching some moron delete large areas mapped as forest cover. I myself have created some areas and later in a year or two go see them deleted. How to find, undo and block these people?

Here I started mapping the forest area around Malshej Ghat and Awle Gaon once again:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/19.3127/73.6852

I tried having a look via “Potlatch 1 undelete” (edit the area in Potlatch 1 and look for historical deleted ways) and I didn’t see anything obvious - just a couple of unclassified roads that were deleted about 7 or 8 years ago.

There is a collection of what looks like experimental classroom edits from this morning in Tenali, Guntur and areas around there in AP. The participants seem to have come in and gone in a short space of time. Needs a clean up.

Lots of somewhat strange additions in and around Tuljapur, MH. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/18.0026/76.0746 . E.g. very irregular buildings, trees marked as woodland, field edges first marked as coastline then changed to ditches.I’ve left some changeset comments. Other people’s input would be useful.

Hello,

could somebody revert all changestes of the following user?:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/hydraserp/history

It was agreed by the Indian OSM comunity that English is the standard Name tag. This user change everywhere in India the name Tags and doesnt stop although he has been pointed out several times.

I have no time to revert this!
Thanks in advance.
Best regard!

Please drop an email to the Data Working Group via data@osmfoundation.org (but note that we, like you, are quite busy at the moment!).