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#2601 2016-07-18 21:36:49

biggles1024
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I also haven't been receiving the second email. This started for me last Friday.

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#2602 2016-07-25 13:35:54

Skippern
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Missing feature: landuse=orchard and/or landuse=forest not showing on my Garmin Nüvi 50 unit with garmin.openstreetmap.nl installed. I noticed it on a feature that have been tagged for several years, so it has nothing to do with map version. (landuse=forest should probably be treated equal as natural=wood, landuse=orchard can be treated as landuse=farmland or landuse=meadow if lack of symbols)

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#2603 2016-07-25 14:35:20

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Which version did you download, generic of generic new?
landuse=forest should be rendered on both versions, maybe it is covered by another feature?
landuse=orchard is indeed missing in the generic version, but should be rendered on the generic new maps.

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#2604 2016-07-27 23:32:08

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

ligfietser wrote:

Which version did you download, generic of generic new?
landuse=forest should be rendered on both versions, maybe it is covered by another feature?
landuse=orchard is indeed missing in the generic version, but should be rendered on the generic new maps.

I use the generic, at the moment I noticed was version 30-06-2016, I have already downloaded the latest (21-07-2016?), but still not transferred to the unit.

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#2605 2016-07-28 14:10:23

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Forests should be definitely visible unless
- there are mapping errors (landuse covering another landuse)
- you have mutiple maps on your device active
- several versions of the generic map on your device?

Can you specify the location url from the osm.org website?

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#2606 2016-07-28 16:59:55

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Couldn't remember on the fly wether it was tagged as forest or orchard, seeing the map it IS orchard. Here is the link to the location

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/- … /-40.46073

I have OSM Generic latest version for South America (manual build) and Garmin official Western Europe on the device. No overlap of maps.

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#2607 2016-07-28 17:51:37

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

That makes sense then, orchards were never rendered on the mkgmap default style.
I reported it and it will be on the map sooner or later, thanks for noticing!

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#2608 2016-07-29 12:13:59

Skippern
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

No problem, wonder why I havn't noticed it earlier, it is close to where I live and I pass there regularly.

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#2609 2016-08-15 09:58:43

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

is it possible to prefer an footpath for walking?
Now when there are two ways (cycle an footpath) the routing is on the cycleway with an walking profile.
is does route over footpath when there isnt an cycleway though.

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#2610 2016-08-16 00:09:41

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

No, not with the generic osm maps nor my bicycle maps. Mkgmap (the software that we use to compile those maps) does not have the knowledge how Garmins activity profiles can control the routing. Garmin does not provide any information about the source code, so it has to be done by reverse engineering. Until know only the old Garmin format is partly revealed. It is only possible if you built a map for one specific activity like walking or cycling, not both. I dont know any map that is built for walking only, sorry.

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#2611 2016-08-16 07:01:39

Madmaus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

ligfietser wrote:

No, not with the generic osm maps nor my bicycle maps. Mkgmap (the software that we use to compile those maps) does not have the knowledge how Garmins activity profiles can control the routing. Garmin does not provide any information about the source code, so it has to be done by reverse engineering. Until know only the old Garmin format is partly revealed. It is only possible if you built a map for one specific activity like walking or cycling, not both. I dont know any map that is built for walking only, sorry.

Thanks for you're response.
this clears a lot.
Te routing is nog bad but the routing of the garmin maps is definitly better when profile is walking of hiking.
workaround is plan the route with Garmin map en then switch to a better map.

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#2612 2016-08-16 08:58:29

ligfietser
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I dont know the draw priority of those garmin maps but one suggestion is to make one of the osm maps you like most, unroutable by sending the tiles to your gps with mapsource (without routing info) and select them both. This way you look at the osm map and use the underlying garmin map for routing. Maybe you will have to change the draw priority of one of the maps to make sure the OSM is shown on top. This could be done with gmaptool.

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#2613 2016-08-16 11:29:56

Madmaus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

ligfietser wrote:

I dont know the draw priority of those garmin maps but one suggestion is to make one of the osm maps you like most, unroutable by sending the tiles to your gps with mapsource (without routing info) and select them both. This way you look at the osm map and use the underlying garmin map for routing. Maybe you will have to change the draw priority of one of the maps to make sure the OSM is shown on top. This could be done with gmaptool.

oh wow this is an great tip.
never ever thought of that.

i will try this when i am at home!

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#2614 2016-08-16 18:07:42

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Here is an example, just untick the box "Include route Calculation Data"

MFM032a.jpg

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#2615 2016-08-16 19:13:04

Madmaus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

thanks!
only one problem, when i rename the img file my garmin says cannot unlock maps. and i cannot view the maps.
with basecamp or direct copy this isnt an prpblem but then i cannot unroute them.
When i dont rename the map it works (but then i cannot have several unroutable maps)

Edit:
oké i found the reason of the error.
I had two same maps on my sdcard.

But it doesnt has the outcome as I hoped, only the routable map is showed by the Garmin and not the other map.

Last edited by Madmaus (2016-08-18 19:22:28)

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#2616 2016-10-18 14:32:58

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

This isn't working any more for me. When I try to build a map I get a new page with:

<script removed by the moderator>

Last edited by ligfietser (2016-10-18 16:20:34)

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#2617 2016-10-18 16:21:36

ligfietser
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

There are problems with the server, please try it later.

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#2618 2016-10-20 19:34:49

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

The map server seemed to take my request OK.  Sent me the email that my request was ready but won't allow me access...I get the following 403 error:

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /garmin/generic_new/08-10-2016/ba9d18ed25de08b6500df9eb861bd10a  on this server.
Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Server at sfs4.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de Port 80

Last edited by DRTBYK (2016-10-20 19:37:57)

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#2619 2016-10-21 07:02:57

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Same for me .... Using a Mac OS 10.11.6 Tried Safari and Firefox

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /garmin/generic/08-10-2016/776d8f9722a11b14b06eec848d49cc18 on this server.

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#2620 2016-10-21 08:54:54

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I don't know where the problem lies , but I expect your problems are not going to be resolved until Lambertus finds more time to manage the site or other Admins resolve the recent server problems.
In the meantime it might be best to extract your Garmin suitable maps from another provider...
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_ … n/Download   
I have found that the BBBike.org ones suit me as I can define my own small region for download that I use mainly for cycling, hiking.
There are many other choices which should suit you until this site is fully functional again.

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#2621 2016-10-21 18:30:10

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Feedback (Don't need pointers to other OSM sites.):

Server now accepts request for map build and seems to manage the queue. But, once the maps are built (apparently, since the queue is empty) , there is no email sent for the download location (assuming that the map was actually built since the request is no longer in the queue).

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#2622 2016-10-21 18:49:36

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

We are currently working on the server problems.

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#2623 2016-10-22 08:31:28

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

The service should be back to normal, thanks to Lambertus who recovered the scripts after a bad hard drive failure.

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#2624 2016-10-22 10:17:50

Alexey Berezkin
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Hi! Thanks for great work. Is there a way to add house numbers labels to a map?

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#2625 2016-10-22 10:32:36

ligfietser
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

It is possible but labels are not rendered because it will clutter the map, sorry.
If you click with the mouse on the highway you see the numbers in Basecamp.

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