Keeping an eye on the map

Oh! In the morning when I searched, I got the error ‘Node doesn’t exist anymore’.

here:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/245619852

Just unclassified a bunch of local roads in Chikkamagaluru that were tagged tertiary. Also any clue if this is actually a reservoir, looks like it used to be an airstrip? http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/10778#map=13/13.3118/75.8010&layers=N

Noticed that User Android team has added more than 3k Mysuru=Mysuru tags in and around Mysuru few weeks back.

This one’s the huge mechanical edit - http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34317657

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34317657 this changeset is now reverted. :slight_smile:

In response to PlaneMad’s query of 21st August

‘Also any clue if this is actually a reservoir, looks like it used to be an airstrip? http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/10778 … 0&layers=N’

See this NEWS9 broadcast video on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhnf6XJMH7A . The geographic coordinates of the airstrip can be seen on a signpost in the video. I’ve therefore marked it as such and changed the area tag for the surround area from wetland to grass, though the land might possibly also flood at times from what seems to be a stream that can be seen on the south side.

Hi,

is there somebody they can take care about this guy:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Rajesultanpur/history#map=12/26.7547/81.9598
around 850 changesets of invented data. He invents airport/railway stations/ big roads/shops and so on.
I dont speak Hindi maybe somebody from India can take care and tell him that he destroy the Indian Navigation Maps. I wrote him many times in English without any result.

Best regards

Thanks for doing that, but can I possibly suggesting using changeset discussion comments rather than OSM messages to do that? They’re public rather than private, which means that other people will know that there’s a problem and can act accordingly.

(my apologies if you have been using changeset discussion comments to communicate - I had a look back through the last 14 days and didn’t notice one)

Yes you are right but I see no other way.
History:
first block from dwg, but this time I can not reach anybody:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/961
some changeset comments from me and others
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43207528#map=14/26.2616/83.0650
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/42850786#map=14/26.3362/83.0707
there are many more but mor then a month ago

Best regards

Are any changesets pending revert? If you see any problems in the future, please let do the DWG know.

I deleted a lot of wrong things. But nothing in the last 14 days.
I wrote on 2. November to this adress:
data@osmfoundation.org
Without any answer. Was this the wrong adress?

We were aware of the user already (they were blocked previously in https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/961 ). Looking at that day I see 17 DWG-related emails one of which (after cross-referencing changeset discussion comments with the forum name here) I presume was from you. It looks like it was acted upon (some other investigation was done), but it looks like there was a misunderstanding about who was going to perform the next action, and one of the things that didn’t happen was an acknowledgement to you that your mail had been received.

Do I read “I deleted a lot of wrong things. But nothing in the last 14 days.” to mean that “there has been no problem data added by this user in the last 14 days” or “they have continued to create problems, but I have given up fixing them for the last 14 days”? If the latter, are any changesets pending revert? What I don’t want to do is to block them again if 14 days ago they started making sensible (even if not very high quality) edits to the map and stopped making fantasy ones.

One of the things mentioned so far was that they may not have a good command of English, so it would be helpful if users of this forum could regularly monitor http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions?c=India and if they see a changeset discussion comment in a language that a local mapper may not understand to add a translation. I’m guessing here that that would mean Urdu?

Hi,

I wrote three mails in past regarding this user. The other 14 are from different users. 14 days ago I tried to inform the DWG group but nothing happend. The main problem is, that he invent a lot of data thats never exist. e.g this airport : http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/26.7955/82.1593
Furthermore he creates railroad station that not exists and so on. Also a lot of roads are complete / partly wrong. In this area we was mapping the correct ref numbers but he change them on his own way and invent new numbers. He mappes bridges that not exist, and so on… . I reverted that shit in the past regulary, but now he change everything in small steps. It is a lot of work to revert this shit and I have not the time to do this. Please revert everything and block this user!

Furthermore he has some other accounts. I will inform you if he activates one of them.

Best regards

To clarify - the DWG does not have a “magic wand” to wave. If someone’s been adding dubious data over a period of time, and other mappers have been active in the same area, we’d need to go through exactly the same process of untangling good edits from bad edits as anyone else would. I can understand that you “have not the time to do this”, but don’t forget that DWG members are all volunteers too! What really helps us is actionable information - a report of a fake airport with a link to the changeset is actionable; saying “a lot of roads are complete / partly wrong” and “he maps bridges that do not exist” is not without more detail. I notice that you’ve been tidying up there recently (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/454068761/history - for which thank you) but the mix of edits effectively means that a simple revert isn’t really an option.

Yeah, yet another reason why the only sensible thing a normal mapper can do in such areas, where known mass vandals are left running lose, is to quit mapping altogether. And most that are driven away will probably never return, seeing that their hard work is considered worth nothing compared to the “contributions” of vandals doing mass destruction or otherwise rendering the map useless with fantasy edits. Just because in the wildest dreams possibly 1% of vandal edits may some day be anything useful. So of course those few (if any) additions FAR outweigh all the additions by normal mappers which were destroyed or damaged before:
Thousand good contributions destroyed, map useless now? Doesn’t matter. Let them continue destroying. Click-click, poof - messed. Fun! Click-click, poof - another. That’s fine, they are welcome, proven by no one stopping them, so they happily continue.
In return they may give back two or three ‘good’ contributions some far day, possibly? Worth GOLD! Diamonds! THOSE edits are worth it to destroy countless hard work hours of normal mappers. Not only in the past, but also the future, because sooner or later most people will get the message that their work is worth absolutely nothing compared to the ‘work’ of vandals and will give up. Time is too precious to waste it for nothing.

@wycbtma , the DWG (and all the other people who try and ensure that OSM is the domain of mappers trying to represent the real world, not people just wanting to draw doodles or add spam) welcome all the help that they can get to try and identify and resolve problems. As I said previously, actionable information such as “this airport is fake” is useful. I fail to see how your post above is. If you’d like to help please do; but sitting on the sidelines and complaining won’t achieve anything.

I do not have the power to press the block-button on vandals.

Hi,

for me is the first step to block this guy permanently. Afterwards I can take care about the repair works.
Best regards

For the benefit of anyone reading this forum who may not have read it, OSMF’s policy on permanent blocks is laid out here:

http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Ban_Policy