Worldwide routable Garmin maps: Missing/incorrect feature requests

What about accented characters, is there a way to see letters such as ç or ã?

At NZOpenGPSMaps we are currently investigating using 9-bit encoding. It seems to give us some control over capitalisation on modern units, but some older models are not compatible with this and MS, as well as BaseCamp insist on doing their own capitalisation. The downside is we will have to provide two versions of the map to cater for the older GPS. I don’t know whether mkgmap can do this, we use cgpsmapper.

The last update has a new ‘problem’: highway shields have disappeared and been replaced by names along the roads. So, instead of a box with a number in it we now have the number written along the road.

Regards,
Peter.

Thanks for noticing Peter, seems that mkgmap r-3449 contained a bug, which has been fixed, see
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Commit-r3472-Revert-incidental-change-in-3449-that-removed-shields-td5834379.html
So in the next update it should be ok.

Thanks for the info.

Dear Forum,

I have found a problem that occurs in the garmin OSM maps in regards to the “tourism=caravan_site” and the “tourism=camp_site” tags. It would appear that the Garmin 64s (and other units, as I have discovered) do not display POIs tagged as “tourism=caravan_site”. Although they do display POIs concerning the other tag. I have been looking into this problem since I recently acquired my 64s when it would not display the campsites that appear on the basecamp program. I will provide links to the threads regarding my investigations

http://forums.gpsreview.net/discussion/29752/campsite-pois-do-not-show-on-gpsmap-64s
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=31093

Regards,
FactualOrc

Looks like a ‘feature’ of this model GPS. You will have to take that up with Garmin.

However, as Garmin don’t support the old map format any more I would not hold my breath.

This is good to know, as we can now avoid that model unless and until they fix it.

Regards,
Peter.

Beddhist,

Is there any any way I can modify the map I have downloaded to correct for this quirk?

I guess that depends on whether your 64s completely ignores these POIs or just doesn’t display them. Can you find them by searching for the name? If so, you may want to experiment with modifying the TYP file.

Failing that, you could compile your own map. It’s not that hard if it is an area not too big: you need a copy of mkgmap, download the config files from the SVN server and make up a suitable batch file. You then download OSM data and drop that on the batch file. Once your map gets over a certain size (I don’t know what the limit is) then you need to split the data into tiles. I have never attempted that.

Another option is to download just the missing POIs from the Overpass web site. After transforming into a compatible format you can load them as custom POIs using Garmin POILoader. This is probably easier than the other options.

Cheers,
Peter.

This is strange, both OSM tags tourism=caravan_site and tourism=camp_site gets the same Garmin rendering poi [0x2b03 resolution 24], see https://github.com/ligfietser/mkgmap-style-sheets/blob/master/styles/generic%20new/points
Are you sure you look at the Generic New maps? Can you send me a link of the OSM.org map of a campsite you don’t see on your device?

I’m investigating this issue further…
poi 0x2b03 is rendered as campground on the map, but is not found with search menu on my Garmin Oregon.
poi 0x2b05 that I use on my openfietsmap is also rendered as campground, can be found with the search menu. On my Openfietsmap I use 2b05 for camp_site and 2b03 for caravan_site. I think this a Garmin device bug rather than a mkgmap index problem because Basecamp and Mapsource can find those pois.

I have dropped this issue on the mgkmap-dev list, http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/index-problem-camp-site-td5844807.html
It should be an easy fix to switch for the 0x2b05 poi.
On the Garmin new Style maps I can change this myself so in the next update it will be fixed, thanks FactualOrc for reporting!

I did some further testing with several devices

0x2b03 (camp and caravan site default style) renders on Dakota, Oregon 600 as tent symbol, but is not findable (only under all POIs -if you know the name). On a Nuvi 310 it renders as tent and findable under lodging. Monterra renders it as caravan and finds it under lodging/campgrounds

I adapted the default style and made a test map without typ file
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5LoKTN293hkYWhQMXRYd0NXSmc/view?usp=sharing
0x02b05 tourism=caravan_site
0x4800 tourism=camp_site

0x2b05 = renders on Dakota, Oregon 600 as tent symbol, and is findable under lodging/campgrounds. On the Nuvi and older Etrex it renders as “bed” (lodging) and findable under lodging. Monterra renders it as tent and finds it under lodging/campgrounds
0x4800 = renders on Dakota, Oregon 600 as tent symbol, and is findable under lodging/campgrounds. On the Nuvi / older Etrex it renders as tent, but pois are not findable at all. Monterra renders it as tent, cannot find it at all.

Please test it for other units.

Hi Ligfietser,

I am happy to report that the img file that you provided in your google drive does actually have working campsite poi’s on my 64s! If you could render a map from this osm http://planet.openstreetmap.ie/ using the same settings I would be greatly appreciative.

Thank you very much,
FactualOrc

Orc, seems like your 64s behaves the same as my Oregon 600 so I’m glad to hear it works as expected.
I’m sorry but I’m not rendering a map from planet.openstreetmap.ie This is an extract of the same planet osm that Lambertus uses on garmin.openstreetmap, so be patient until the next map updates.

Not quite sure if I have to post it here ?

I’ve downloaded Routable Bicycle (Openfietsmap Light) Ontario version 10-09-2015

In Openstreetmap I see parking spaces written as:
Amenity = parking
parking=surface
surface-=asphalt

After installing I see (for example: Hamilton (ON) - King William Street only car towing truck as pictogram.
Here a screenshot: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=49D9B9E5AE291F75%213135
What goes wrong ?

groen_duiven

Typ file seems missing.
Maybe try a fresh download, if it still missing, you could post the download link here.

After downloading new map of Ontario (version 16-09-2015) problem solved.

In the version of 10-09-2015 were more strange things. In parks there were many watertaps instead of benches.

groen_duiven

Thats because I have to use other Garmin types to make some cycling features findable. I use parking for bicycle parking, normal car parks I have to shift to another garmin type, like towing truck :wink:
If the map does not have the original typ file, those “hacks” become visible. Maybe by some compiling error on the server of the map generation the typ file was lost?

Hi folks,

I downloaded the Lambertus osm_generic_new_gmapsupp.zip North America/Oregon Generic Routable (new style) and installed it on my Garmin GPSMap62st.

Looks really good, but I’ve noticed a couple potentially-missing items:

From https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/44.06379/-121.35297

leisure=playground [point]

From https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/44.2548/-121.1544

lines associated with aeroway [ways], though the labels appear

Ideas? Thanks!