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#1 2015-04-23 10:11:21

Cactusbone
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leaning towers

I'm thinking about special tags for leaning towers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_leaning_towers

tagging could be :

leaning:tilt : in degrees (default) or meters
leaning:azimuth : in degrees from north, or simply an orientation (NW, SSE)

leaning=shearing when the tilt maintain horizontal plane

angle-tilt.jpg
width-tilt.jpg
shearing_angle-tilt.jpg
part_leaning.jpg
part_leaning_width.jpg
part_leaning_shearing.jpg

some examples :
PlazaCastillaMadrid.JPG

there are some building with both leaning but i'm not yet sure how to handle those, ideas are welcome !

What do you think ?

Last edited by Cactusbone (2015-04-23 10:12:03)

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#2 2015-04-23 14:15:06

Tordanik
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Re: leaning towers

That's an interesting topic, and I've been thinking about similar (but slightly different) cases recently. Specifically, there is often the situation that some faces of a building, rather than the entire building, are inclined. From my (limited) personal experience, I would even consider such per-face inclines more common than an entire leaning tower.

Therefore, I'm wondering if we can find an approach that covers both cases.

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#3 2015-04-23 15:26:28

shrddr
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Re: leaning towers

Per-face inclines can be covered with leaning building:parts I think

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#4 2015-04-23 22:27:04

pyram
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Re: leaning towers

What's about tagging the opposite of an roof.
It could be tagged similar to
"roof:shape=skillion" as
"bottom:shape=skillion".
This tower could be tagged with three vertical "building:parts".

It would also be helpful for other shapes like "round" or "dome" (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomium) or one-sided leaning.

Edit:
If we find a solution, maybe I would create this: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_ … n_Memorial

Last edited by pyram (2015-04-23 22:38:28)

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#5 2015-04-24 09:39:47

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Re: leaning towers

yep per face incline would be nice, for building like :

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but it's quite hard to define which face is leaning

it can indeed be done using building:parts but it's quite hard to get right, and it's more of a workaround than a solution hmm

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#6 2015-04-24 15:41:24

pyram
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Re: leaning towers

An other idea:
We could add
"building:axis=x;y"
Pre defined is the start point 0;0 on ground or bottom of building:part (height=0 or min_height=z[ground]). The coordinate x;y plus building:height (as z[top]) defines the axis as line.
It also works with pyramidal shapes or asymmetric gabled roofs (roof:axis=x;y) (https://www.schwoererhaus.de/de/haeuser/searchhouse/166)

Indeed: building:part is a workaround, but we talk about Simple 3D. Simple is: less rules and less basic types ;-)

Edit (add):
You do not need: leaning=shearing
If the roof is horizontal than you can use roof:shape flat, else use roof:shape=skillion...

Last edited by pyram (2015-04-24 20:39:28)

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#7 2015-04-28 11:20:25

Cactusbone
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Re: leaning towers

axis looks really hard to get, using an additional point as axis may be more user friendly imho
however a point as axis won't help for roofs on complex forms.

if you have a tower with a flat roof, but the whole tower is leaning, if you can't specify shearing, you won't be able to map it.

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#8 2015-05-13 17:22:01

Cactusbone
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Re: leaning towers

maybe also include a way to indicate a part is bigger at the top than at the bottom on all sides
(like the top of chichen itza : http://demo.f4map.com/#lat=20.6831797&l … phi=35.809 )

for example :
leaning=funnel
leaning:tilt=1m

Last edited by Cactusbone (2015-05-13 17:33:21)

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#9 2015-05-18 09:30:53

Cactusbone
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Re: leaning towers

we may even be able to use this with an angle to indicate a side of the building is leaning, what do you think ? (not very straightforward though)

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#10 2015-05-18 20:11:25

Tordanik
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Re: leaning towers

I have another idea that might be useful. But I need to describe some context first:

To tackle the problem that sometimes part of a building's walls can have a different colour, material etc. than the rest, I've thought about proposing a building:wall=yes tag. It would allow you to draw a way on a part of the building outline and add tags like building:colour etc. to it.

It's loosely based on an idea I  discussed with Kendzi in the past. The idea was well received in the German community. I've also created a quick test how this could be implemented in OSM2World, perhaps this clarifies what I'm talking about:

building:wall.png

So what does that have to do with leaning towers? I was thinking that, maybe, we could add angles to the building wall ways. This would allow different leanings per wall, plus buildings that get wider or narrower towards the top.

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#11 2015-05-19 09:46:33

Cactusbone
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Re: leaning towers

looks easy to use smile

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#12 2015-06-01 10:20:01

Cactusbone
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Re: leaning towers

looks like someone is already using building:wall=yes

https://getsatisfaction.com/f4map/topic … ent-colors

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