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#2201 2014-07-14 19:20:58
- ligfietser
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Mafketel, sounds like this is caused by a missing typ file, there were some errors in the map generation a few weeks ago (see http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopi … 2625&p=87).
Could you please try the latest version?
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#2202 2014-07-15 09:34:36
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
That removed the hatching for the Islands and made the map more readable with basecamp.
This map is installing on my gps as we speak.... but this always takes a long time with my mac.... And if I don't install them and just copy the gmap image from the website every time I open basecamp it will load the map from gps and I have two identical maps as a choice in basecamp (one from gps and one already on pc).
By the time I was done checking and changing Crete I could also check my gps where the old town and the lake are both rendered correctly now.
Crete is a different matter though. I already noticed that the hatching was much bigger then the Island, partly 10km GISCO buffer zone and the other side is Crete/south aegean periphery.
I Assume this is a data problem at osm and I am willing to change it except I have no idea what is wrong
scratch that I think I know what is the problem and I hope I fixed it.
... I assume it is the multipolygon Κρήτη (Crete) 453129 and then in particularly the fact it was tagged place=island , which I just removed.
So that should be ok in the next rendering ![]()
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#2203 2014-07-15 10:10:46
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Correct, the tag place=island is rendering the whole boundary as island. I'd better make this polygon invisible instead of rendering it as land (hatched pattern if you dont use a typ file), because I fear more mistakes are made with this tag.
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#2204 2014-07-15 10:32:17
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Provinces mixed up in Thailand:
Search for the city of Suphan Buri, located at N14.46762 E100.11834. In Mapsource and the GPS all places in Suphan Buri province that I have seen so far are shown as located in the neighbouring province:
Suphan Buri
Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya Province, THA
Suphan Buri is capital of the province with the same name.
I notice something strange as I point my mouse at the provincial boundaries. W of Node: 2902644726 it shows both province names, E of this only one. At this point the boundary for a national park splits off. I don't understand enough about relations to troubleshoot this, so I would be glad if somebody could take a look. I don't even know whether this is related or not.
Info about the node:
Node: 2902644726
Data Set: 63db73
Edited at: 2014-06-06T10:13:24Z
Edited by: Paul_012 (100662)
Version: 1
In changeset: 22771905
Coordinates: 14.8350687, 99.3081859
Coordinates (projected): 1.105493668599175E7, 1670199.6986975581
Part of:
Way: 286584848
Way: 286584849
Way: 141066689I don't even know whether this is a Garmin map problem or a problem with the data.
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#2205 2014-07-15 11:05:38
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Correct, the tag place=island is rendering the whole boundary as island. I'd better make this polygon invisible instead of rendering it as land (hatched pattern if you dont use a typ file), because I fear more mistakes are made with this tag.
I think rendering place=island as land is correct, just need to fix the mistake in the data ![]()
And i think it was the only one in the area I looked at.
@Beddhist sounds like a data problem, make a map note if you don't know how to fix it ![]()
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#2206 2014-07-15 12:51:19
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I don't even know whether this is a Garmin map problem or a problem with the data.
Peter, could be a broken boundary problem in OSM, maybe it is fixed in the next update because it was edited recently: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1908824 (seems not broken now)
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#2207 2014-07-15 13:09:19
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ligfietser wrote:Correct, the tag place=island is rendering the whole boundary as island. I'd better make this polygon invisible instead of rendering it as land (hatched pattern if you dont use a typ file), because I fear more mistakes are made with this tag.
I think rendering place=island as land is correct, just need to fix the mistake in the data
And i think it was the only one in the area I looked at.
@Beddhist sounds like a data problem, make a map note if you don't know how to fix it
Thanks for noticing it Mafketel, because I now see that this place=island polygon is causing more issues, like covering too many details (like covering other landuse types) so I have to made it invisible in the TYP file anyway. Now it will only render the island names. Land area is already rendered by the coastline tags so there is no need to do this with a place=island tag.
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#2208 2014-07-15 14:09:17
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You know better then me ![]()
After downloading the rest of some maps (5-7-2014)
I also just noticed that in basecamp and gps the buildings on the airports are almost invisible against the background of the tarmac of an airport.
e.g. schiphol but also newark and boston have this issue.
Maybe I should stop looking at recent tracks ![]()
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#2210 2014-07-15 18:45:30
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#2211 2014-07-16 12:28:55
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I notice that the front page of the garmin.openstreetmap.nl site shows a map based on 2014-07-07 data. Is it no longer on a weekly update cycle, or did this week's update just fail to happen as planned?
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#2212 2014-07-16 14:07:03
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
2014-07-07 is the date at which the map update is started and it takes a few days to complete. So it is simply too early to wonder whether the approx. weekly update cycle is not executed as it normally would ![]()
Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002
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#2213 2014-07-17 14:41:21
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My request is number #1631 in the queue, 6.8 days to wait... too late I'm afraid :-( I miss predefined groups of countries in the listboxes: I need (north of)Germany+Denmark+(south of)Sweden. Would it be possible to add very common combinations like Germany+Austria+Switzerland or Germany+Sweden+Denmark to the list of predefined maps? Country queries are much faster, but I have an old Garmin etrex and cannot combine maps manually.
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#2214 2014-07-17 20:09:19
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Just install all those countries on your computer and use Basecamp's Mapinstall or Mapsource to send a selection of map tiles to your GPS.
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#2215 2014-07-18 02:33:44
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Beddhist wrote:I don't even know whether this is a Garmin map problem or a problem with the data.
Peter, could be a broken boundary problem in OSM, maybe it is fixed in the next update because it was edited recently: http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1908824 (seems not broken now)
Thanks, in the new map update just out it is OK now.
Regards,
Peter.
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#2216 2014-07-19 10:14:30
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Just a quick heads-up:
The custom map queues have been really long the past few weeks (up to 1700 requests waiting), but I'm happy to announce that later this weekend I hope to be able to add a second custom map server which adds 2x the cpu power but unfortunately only supports 1/3rd of the disk space which is limiting. Anyway it looks like a nice addition.
It looks like only the mail daemon needs configuring..
Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002
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#2217 2014-07-19 11:09:21
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Thank you again for providing this invaluable service. It keeps getting better all the time.
Regards,
Peter.
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#2218 2014-07-19 13:35:42
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Lambertus, if you are short of disk space, does a mirror server like the NLUUG server for the Openfietsmap help?
They asked me if we need more disk space.
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#2219 2014-07-19 20:54:02
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
The new server is live. At first all new custom requests will be routed to the new server and the original custom server is enabled again when it has caught up.
I'm aware of one last problem on the new server: fancy directory listing isn't working yet.
Edit: fixed. Needed to change <DocumentRoot>AllowOverrides None -> all
Lambertus, if you are short of disk space, does a mirror server like the NLUUG server for the Openfietsmap help?
They asked me if we need more disk space.
This is difficult. As it stands now, disk space alone has little value to this service, especially the custom maps need disk space AND cpu power. The country maps could be hosted offsite but there is no need for that at this moment.
Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002
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#2220 2014-07-19 22:17:08
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How often are the predefined maps updated?
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#2221 2014-07-20 08:42:13
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
How often are the predefined maps updated?
Approximately once a week.
Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002
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#2222 2014-07-20 19:31:01
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Whoops! 600 GB of custom maps in ~half a day: disk full. Map generation is idling now ....
Edit: We're updating and rebooting osm2 now and will bring it back up asap. Warning: This will kill ongoing downloads!
After updating two custom map servers will be available (but both very very busy).
Edit: I'm told that a lot of emails got stuck at another other mail server because we're using a temporary domain. Many people will receive their 'Map ready' mail much later then necessary.
Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002
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#2223 2014-07-21 13:24:22
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Now that there are two custom mapserver I needed to implement some kind of load sharing. The first version was simply based on a random selection. But it was pretty soon clear that this is not enough, so I added adaptive load balancing: if one custom map server is full then all requests go to the other.
Small steps...
Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002
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#2224 2014-07-23 12:04:30
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Still tweaking the old and new servers. The old one is a bit faster now and the new one should become a bit less stop-and-go as it did the past few days.
Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002
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#2225 2014-07-25 07:59:38
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED
Hi there. Thanks for the great service.. However, I received a map-ready email but following the links I get to a download location which contains only the _tiles.zip, licence.txt and the typ file. In the mail it says that it should also contain:
* _windows.exe = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/MapSource (Windows).
* _macosx.zip = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/RoadTrip (Mac OSX)
* _gmapsupp.zip = Combined image for direct manual placement on the GPS device (gmapsupp.img)
Something went wrong?
Regards
Rein
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