Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED

if you use viewfinderpanoramas.org data, you may not merge the data (different license). If you don#t use it, you end up with bad quality contourlines. Still, contourlines for the whole world, will take you a lot of time to generate (as the tools are not made for it), or need a machine with at least 64GB RAM…
(as for space, I would assume for the generation 200GB are about what you need).

Hi all, after some years of straightforward installation into mapsource, the mapping gods have turned against me. I just cannot get it to work anymore. Installation of OSM routable into mapsource I mean. I tried anything I could think of. Reinstall mapsource even. But all of it in vain.
Suggestions anybody?

Thnx for your help, Hein

Hein, we need more info on what goes wrong. Error message, or what happens or doesn’t happen.

OK, this is waht happens:

I choose Netherlands for the map I want to download from the routable site.
Choose mapsource.exe to download
After download complete I “open” mapsource.exe
for the installation I direct the installer to c:\Program Files\Openstreetmap Garmin Maps\ (this folder also contains NL-FRYSK that IS recognized in Mapsource)
during installation I acknowledge/Ok permissions etc. and the folder containing a (seamingly) correct nr of img files is installed
the installed OSM routable map is also visible in the list of installed software (Configuration)
however, when I start mapsource OSM routable is not in the list of mapproducts.

When I mess around with the working NL-FRYSK map, (I move all original files out of the NL-FRYSK folder and exchange them for the files in the OSM routable). The mapproduct NL-FRYSK dissappears from the list of mapproducts in mapsource. I cannot use it anymore. When I undo the move and put the original files back in, the N-FRYSK is available again.

All the time there are no error messages as far as I can see.

I am running Windows Vista, my browser is Firefox. I have basecamp installed as well. That behaves the same as mapsource.

Does this help?

Thnx, Hein

So, you are installing the OSM map into the SAME folder that contains the NL-FRYSK files? If so, this is the problem. All maps must reside in their own folders.

If not, try installing JaVaWa GMTK. This will probably tell you what is wrong and fix it for you.

The “OSM Routable” map is in a folder named “OSM Routable”. the “NL-FRYSK” map is a folder named “NL-FRYSK”. These foders being made during the installation process. In my opinion this means they are in sepaarte forlders? Both folders share a (higher level folder) named “Openstreetmap Garmin Maps”.

Can JaVaWa GMTK help in this case? I do not want to move maps?

Hein

I just re-read your post and now see how you make the NL map disappear. :slight_smile:

JaVaWa let’s you check for errors and offers to fix them. Moving maps is just one thing the app does. Give it a go. There is either a conflict with your NL map or your registry is somehow messed up. There is a good chance that this will help you.

OK, I ran JaVaWa. Shows all of the installed maps (4) as either green or yellow without any indication of errors (cross icon is greyed out). 1 Of the 4 maps JaVaWa finds is the OSM routable we are discussing. That one has a green square, no diagonal. The other three I see i MApsource and have access to. The ÖSM routable" remains unavailable.
Hein

Registry made me check further. With the info from JaVaWa I find there is a difference in de reg key used for NL-FRYSK and The OSM routable. see belowattachment. That could be it?

Hein

Naam in toestel:	OSM World Routable
Family ID (FID):	2000
Product ID (PID):	3
Versie:	1.00
Grootte:	353,33 MiB
Locatie:	C:\Program Files\OpenStreetMap Garmin maps\OSM World Routable\
Registersleutel:	HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Garmin\MapSource\Families\OSM World Routable
Kaarttype:	Registerkaart
Beveiligd:	Nee
	
Kaartsegmenten (76):	63240012.img: OSM World Routable (63240012)
	63240016.img: OSM World Routable 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

and

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~Naam op computer:	OSM NL Frysk
Naam in toestel:	OSM map
Product ID (PID):	52
Versie:	1.00
Grootte:	75,91 MiB
Locatie:	C:\Program Files\OpenStreetMap Garmin maps\NL-FRYSK\
Registersleutel:	HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Garmin\MapSource\Products
Kaarttype:	Registerkaart
Beveiligd:	Nee
	
Kaartsegmenten (169):	13000001.img: OSM NL Frysk(13000001)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If you have an older install file then you could try removing the current OSM map and installing the older one. Perhaps your install file is broken? Since thousands of people use this successfully, it has to be a problem on your PC. Sorry, I don’t think I can help you any further…

Looks like this was installed a long time ago, before Garmin adopted Family IDs. If you have a valid TDB file, overview.IMG file, and IMG file you could re-install it with a Family ID using MapSetToolKit and the process I describe here about halfway down the thread. There’s probably a more elegant way to do it using JavaWa, but I’m not very good with that yet.

Hello!

I have been a relatively slow but continuous mapper for a couple of years, and having just bought a Garmin GPS I discover this discussion: needless to say I’m delighted --I knew the others OSM activities of Lambertus but here I’m just baffled :wink:
I just downloaded my region and managed to install it on a Dezl, routing works perfectly and it’s a really warm feeling to “see OSM” on the GPS screen. (I see some complain about how the map default looks: I definitely love it!)

If I may, I have just a single wish: my GPS is capable to handle truck-related constraints within the Garmin own map: for instance, I announce my trailer is 3m high, and then the software will automatically avoid passing under bridges allowing only 2.5m max height.

Now, when the GPS only runs from the OSM map, it won’t recognize height limit tags apparently.
Do you think it is an issue with the tags themselves? (i. e., wrong tag, wrong tagged object…?)
Or is it a limit from the translating software that’ll not transfer them “to Garmin”?

(I remember having added myself many of these truck constraints in my surroundings in OSM!)

TIA!
Hervé

In Germany, someone recently invented a Garmin map for trucks:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Win32netsky

So, it is possible! But you have to implement it.

Greetings,
ajoessen

Hi, the thing is … The OSM NL-Frysk is a map I can see and use in Mapsource. The map I want to see, but cannot, is the OSM World Routable. If I understand you correctly this has been installed in the correct way. So, I do not want to fix the NL Frysk installation. That one I could actually do without. I want the OSM routable to work though. Any thoughts on that?

Thnx, Hein

I can only think of running the deinstaller for the OSM World Routable map and reinstall it, or if the deinstaller does not exist or does not remove everything, manually remove the map from the harddisk and delete the entry for the map in the registry (search for “OSM World Routable”, then delete the entry in Garmin/MapSource/Families). Then reinstall the OSM World Routable map.

I agree with Lambertus. If you aren’t comfortable manually deleteing items from your registry MapSetToolKit has a handy “uninstall” feature.

Thnx guys, I tried the uninstall/install thing already, Not in combination with deleting the registry entry though. Will give it a try. The thing that bugs me, is the fact that I was a happy osm routable user untill a month or so ago. I ignored the problem untill recently. I’ll try the mapsetoolkit.

Hein

Working with Garmin maps I can say that there is no tag for height restrictions, only truck yes/no. I think you have discovered a feature of NT maps, which only Garmin themselves can compile.

As ajoessen says, you can compile your own map and implement a rule that restricts trucks in the Garmin map if height > x metres.

Success, thnx to all that came with suggestions. The mapsettoolkit really worked. I started the program and saw that a long list of debris (old map entries) was there. Only needed to select and uninstall these and then, … after startup of mapsource, I saw that the osm routable map of the Netherlands was there again.

Thnx again, Hein

Thank you, ajoessen and Beddhist!
I think I’m not mature enough to start compiling myself but I hope to reach this within some months!

Indeed the “truck” features of my Dezl look like they are quite detailed: initially one enters truck height/width/weight… and the restrictions leading to a detour are then identified, criterion by criterion, before the complete traject is drawn; for instance for height I get a screen locating the “faulty” bridge and its height limitation, etc.
I thought this corresponded to some equivalent to a “maxheight =…” tag.

Thanks again for both the great work, and the efficient reactions here!
Hervé