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Right, then there is something wrong with the build process for that area. I’ll look at it.

Yes, there are lots of problems in that area (code pages and such). I’m working on a new version where you can set all kinds of parameters if you want to. Be patient though, it’s impacting everything ofcourse so it requires some time.

Good idea, I’ll add that to the list as well.

That’s what I’m working at currently.

Yes, I’ve had my share of misses too :stuck_out_tongue:

Great to hear it. I’ll be looking forward to it and will try to be patient. :confused:

Have a great day.

Robert

Hello,
Preliminarily I installed several tiles on my gpsmap 60csx and on Mapsource.
The version on the 60csx I combined with a typfile as provided for the complete Germany routable map of OSM.
On both versions (device / MS) I now have the same problem:
When zooming out beyond a scale of 3 km the OSM-roads disappear. The principal roads may dissapear partially and disappear completely with the next step (5 km)
The roads of the basemap remain visible.
Beyond a scale of 5 km the map looks quite useless:
The OSM-roads are disappeared, while the rivers and the private/public boundaries remained visible. As I understood, the problem relies to the levels attached to the various elements, but I cannot identify whether this is a problem of the OSM-data or the generation of the map.
Best regards,
Gibuld

I tried downloading two sets of tiles. When I installed the second, the first one was removed from Mapsource (same product code I guess).
Is there an easy way to add tiles from a second download to one that was gotten earlier?

Is there still an option to get a (cached) ‘all tiles’ download?

Exactly. I’m working on allowing you to define your own map parameters like product codes.

There are several options to generate an overview map and TDB file (which are needed for MapSource) using existing tiles. One is using Mkgmap another is MapSetToolkit.

No, not at the moment and I’m not sure I will add such an option again at all.

First off - Lambertus, what a fantastic resource, thank you.

I’m probably being another numpty here ! - so apologies in advance.

I selected & downloaded tiles for all of UK - and opened them up in Mapsource, - all visible. I even managed to use the routing feature on a trial route between 2 waypoints I created. :slight_smile:

But my “find places” is greyed out when the OSM Routable Map is open in Mapsource.:expressionless:

With PC basemap “find places” is OK but of course that is not routable.

Then I tried the option to show “OSM Map” - find places is OK, and it seems I can create a waypoint in there (that I could later use in OSM Routable),

BUT the problem is that not all the area is shown in this version. Although all of the UK is shown in routable - in the OSM Map it only shows a small portion of the South West of the UK - not even a whole tile. On the Select tiles page of the web site that tile should also have a corner of Spain - right?

What did I do wrong?

I guess you did nothing wrong here. You’re looking at limitations of the map building process which includes the not fully working address search. I expect the software to become better at it in time but it requires more knowledge of the Garmin image format.

What is the option to show “OSM map”? I cannot find it in MapSource. Can you elaborate?

The tile that is not being shown… is that 63240046.img? I’ve looked at that tile and it seems ok to me… Can you post the download url please?

Hi Lambertus
Thank you for your quick reply - Can I send you direct e-mail with screen dumps to show better what I mean (I couldn’t figure how to do that directly in Forum post) ?

OK - I figured a way to do it on forum:)

This first screen dump shows what I got when I opened up the OSM World Routable map - the area is exactly what I was expecting.
but as I mentioned the “Find Places” is greyed out.

You see at top left a drop down - it says OSM World Routable

but it also gives me other options like on this second screen dump

As you can see, this time, I selected option for OSM Map -
This time the “Find Places” is working !:slight_smile: but unfortunately I do not live in that part of the country !
I am assuming I got that OSM Map as part of my download from you… because until I found your wonderful service I could not get anything in Mapsource at all.

My download url was:
<http://planetosm.oxilion.nl/~lambertus/garmin/routable/30-04-2009/2aa986149e2343955822797ed9c9eac5>

If that “OSM Map” was for all of UK - It would solve a problem… because I can find a place on there - put a Waypoint on it, then use that Waypoint in the Routable versionm.

I guess I should say also I got Mapsource on my PC by using the instructions near foot of this page:
http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12998.60
because I don’t yet own a Garmin - just thinking of buying one, and decided to explore OSM before spending money on Topo which I heard is not so good.
Anyway I got so excited by whole OSM concept - I even added a small (20 metre) path near my house (freehand without a GPS, just by reference to other already mapped features) Only a very small contribution I know but I hope to do more in future.

Your OSM map is most likely generated using cgpsmapper while my routable maps are generated using Mkgmap. Unfortunately the address search section in Mkgmap is not complete yet because of lack of understanding of the Garmin image format by it’s makers. The reason why I don’t use cgpsmapper is that it is a commercial application and I like to promote OS tools and drive their development by increasing the userbase. The development of Mkgmap is going strong so I guess the address search will be working within the next 6 months (uneducated guess!).

Lambertus, for some unknown reason routing doesn’t work for tile 63240108.img (Cologne, Germany) on my StreetPilot. I haven’t come across any other bad tiles so far…

I’ll rebuild the tile and see if I can see something strange…

Yes I suppose it could be cgsmapper - I installed the freeware version of that, to try to make Mapsource readable files from a GMAPSUPP.IMG (for all of UK) supplied by another member of yacf forum. I could not get it to work. I don’t know why it should (in the background) create something readable for just a corner of UK.

I had a look at Mkgmap - but I decided my command line days are too long ago. I will wait for the GUI on that. In the meantime the Routable map is OK without the Find places because one can use other resources like Multimap to find locations then put a waypoint on the routable map.

I will watch with great interest all the developments.

I’ve been on a holiday in Switzerland, and because we had no topo maps there I used your OSM Garmin maps. It worked perfect!

But there is one problem: if I show your maps on the device, most areas are not shown. Some examples: landuse=residential, building=yes, natural=wood. Strange is that they do show up when loaded in MapSource. Another thing: highway=motorway is blue in MapSource and red on the device. And highway=track and highway=cycleway are different in MapSource, but there is no difference between them on the device. Are the MapSource application and the device using different styles?

Another thing: I think that POI’s are displayed too early when zooming in. They should show up at 500m zoom level or something. Now, they show up at 3km.

I’m using the default Mkgmap style and have noticed the things you describe too (e.g. tracks, paths, footways and cycleways all having the same look on the GPS). Perhaps this needs fixing in the default Mkgmap style or we need to use a TYP file to control this, though from the openmtb map I understand this is a problem with the default Mkgmap style.

I an reluctant to develop my own style because of the time it takes and because other map makers possibly do not profit from it. So I think it would be best to somehow organize a significant effort to improve the default Mkgmap style.

Hi again Lambertus!

I think I’ve been finally beaten by trying to get OSM to work on my Garmin 60CX. I am still hoping to be able to add to the OSM knowledge while on my Around the World tour starting in 3 weeks.

I have created a map of Eastern US, dowloaded tiles individualy (to compile myself thus spare your server time). I compiled the tiles using GMapTool. I have finally loaded the map onto the GPS, and it works! Except once I get to 30k viewing distance, everything disappears… I don’t know why this is and I have worked on compiling these maps and getting them on the GPS for weeks. Learning about GPS, learning about OSM, learning about MapSource, cgmapper, GmapTool, etc. Can anybody on this forum think what I might be doing wrong that the map should not work outside of 30k? Is my gpmapsupp.img file too large at 1.3GB?

Anyhoo, on the upside the compilation for South America works, and I can use it on my GPS: Hooray for me! Maybe I should just skip the states? :stuck_out_tongue:

I’ve never used GmapTool, only Mkgmap. I cant remember setting my zoomlevel to 30k on my Garmin so I don’t know if it works in Mkgmap, but I wonder what’s the benefit of zooming out that far…

South America is an infinitely little amount of data compared to North America, that might explain why that works.

It’s the zooming IN part that isn’t effective, otherwise I wouldn’t have a problem. Any closer than 30k and all the data disappears, until I get to about 3k then I only see town labels. Can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong.

I will try once more and make the Eastern US map compilation half the size. If I can’t figure it out I’ll move on.

Thanks for your help!

@Lambertus: Found your site and thought it would be best solution for my map problem in connection with the etrex Vista HcX to download a map with installer form your site. I requested two maps: One of the complete area of Germany and one only showing a small part of West-Germany. I Received the download link for both maps last night. However, when I try to download, I am just directed to a page with error “404 not found”. :open_mouth:

The message was as follows:
Not Found

The requested URL /~lambertus/garmin/routable/30-04-2009/cf9a5ae6a636ecc5e8e86ea39a7319f7> was not found on this server.
Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at planetosm.oxilion.nl Port 80

Is this only a temporary problem or are my files really missing?
Thanks for any help in advance! I would really like to use your service! :slight_smile:

You need to remove the ‘>’ from the URL.

I added ‘<’ in front and ‘>’ at the back of the URL to prevent mail clients to break the URL in two sections (wrap) which works perfectly in Mozilla Thunderbird, but I guess some other mail clients parse messages differently. Perhaps I should resolve it differently. Does anyone else have a generic method of displaying long URL’s without breaking up in email clients?

With breaking up I mean something like this:

http://planetosm.oxilion.nl/~lambertus/garmin/routable/09-04-2009/0f987fe31
b1651d0dedcb10737d42da5

Instead of:

http://planetosm.oxilion.nl/~lambertus/garmin/routable/09-04-2009/0f987fe31b1651d0dedcb10737d42da5