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#1 2009-03-18 12:15:04

mapryan
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Registered: 2008-08-08
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Railway bridge identification

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At the end of my road is a railway bridge with a cycle way going underneath it. On the bridge is a plaque with the following information:
BBJ
1265
5m 02ch

Assuming this is some kind of identification for network rail, can anyone suggest how I would enter this into Openstreetmap?

Cheers

Mike

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#2 2009-03-18 20:44:38

Vclaw
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From: Alba
Registered: 2009-02-25
Posts: 522
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Re: Railway bridge identification

I just found this page, which has all the details of what those railway bridge signs mean: http://deaves47.users.btopenworld.com/ELRs/ELR0.htm and a Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineers_line_reference

Bascially BBJ is the line reference (Balham to Beckenham Junction Line?)
1265 is a reference number for that bridge
5m 02ch is the distance in miles and chains from somewhere, maybe from one end of the line or from London?

For Openstreetmap, I think you should tag the bridge with the reference number, using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref
ie ref=1265
Maybe the line reference could be added as something like ref_line=BBJ?

I'm not sure if the distance is worth adding to OSM, it should be obvious from the map.

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#3 2009-03-19 10:02:04

EdLoach
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From: Clacton-on-Sea, UK
Registered: 2009-01-20
Posts: 59
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Re: Railway bridge identification

I'm tempted to say that the unique reference for the bridge is BBJ1265, rather than use two separate tags.

Using ref= is OK for railway bridges, but what about references for bridges that have A or B roads crossing them? Won't the ref tag already be in use? Perhaps bridge_ref= in those cases?

I just looked back at some photos I took when on a walk back at the end of January where the route took me under two bridges beneath a railway line. The older sign didn't include the line reference (though the web links helped me guess what it should be), then the second photo did include the line reference which matched what the website had suggested for the first one. (MAH1050 and MAH1057). I can't remember whether I tagged the bridges at the time, but will perhaps go back and add the tags now.

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#4 2009-03-24 17:42:22

POHB
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Registered: 2008-11-17
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Re: Railway bridge identification

There used to be bridge tags like over_ref and under_ref, e.g. for a railway bridge over a canal.  What ever happened to them and what is the current standard?

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#5 2009-04-07 16:51:26

Alex McKee
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From: Gloucester, UK
Registered: 2008-01-17
Posts: 234

Re: Railway bridge identification

Surely you'd put the ref on the bridge section of the railway, not the highway passing beneath? smile

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