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Would it be possible to add to the webpage the date of the source OSM data you’ve built the tiles from so a user can tell if they need to request a new map build.

Thanks!

Yes, I’m working on that.

yeap I think its pretty obvious now, thanks,
you might also put what sort of map files it builds eg mapsource, etc…

BTW this is a great resource.

I’ve been away for some days so I didn’t have the time to report on the success. As already pointed out by IrlJidel, the MapSource installer now works fine on the new MapSource versions. Currently, I can’t say if the confirmation e-mails still get stuck in my spam filter as I accidentally gave a different address without such a filter. The link given in that mail wasn’t formatted correctly as it included the closing ‘>’ of the tag.

In addition, I have some advice regarding the tiles that do not compile correctly:

  • The one in the Netherlands is due to a very dense road network. By experimentation with the splitter and mkgmap I found that the number of ways in a tile is a stricter limit than the number of nodes.
  • In Denmark, there exists an awful amount of tags so that mkgmap runs out of heap space quite quickly while reading the osm file.

In both cases, you’ll have to run the tile splitter with a smaller number of nodes as none of the parameters mentioned above can be influenced directly.

I was thinking to put the text in email (that I added to fool the scam filters) on the web page too.

Cool!

It doesn’t get recognized as scam by Thunderbird anymore. Maybe I can remove both < and > in the url.

Thanks for looking into this, but I am already aware of the source of the problem. It’s just that it’s not a good idea to split tiles individually so I’m now writing a tool to edit the splitter commandfile so that problems like this can be solved during the next update run.

America is now also available on the server.

Hi Lambertus,
Good job! I’ve tested the maps in mapsource and it works great. The cycling option in mapsource takes now the cycling lanes (where available), cool!
The only thing I couldnt get to work is to add a typ-file attached to the maps. With mapset toolkit I tried to use a TYP file but somehow it crashes Mapsource. I had to convert the maps to a Family ID maybe that isnt possible somehow?

That’s good to hear.

I’ve been thinking about letting users provide their own TYP file and have those incorporated on the server while the maps is built, but for now I think that is too much work.

I don’t know what the exact meaning is of family id and product id. Currently I set only the latter, maybe the family id needs te be configured too. Any info on this?

All I know is the TYP file is only possible with a Family ID. I also put your map in a nuvi and here the routing seems working fine too. Im very happy to have a Garmin routable cyclemap! Hope you can add the tile of the centre of NL soon (not available right now).

Ok.

Good to know.

Yes, there were some other things to do first. But the missing tiles are nearing the top of my list.

something wierd is happening when I combine all of the Australian Tiles and try to view the australia East Coast (near Sydney)
It looks as though the map is cut off or no coast is defined.
Initially i thought it was because I didn’t select that tile but after the second time its still there.

hmm on second view its the **whole ** coast of Australia

It is possible that the splitting process has problems with polygons that crosses multiple tiles. I read someone reporting that on the Mkgmap list this morning.

From http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/page/tile-splitter

  • There is a maximum of 255 output files. This should anyway be enough with the current amount of data.
  • A line or relation can only spread over a max of 4 areas. This will probably be fixed, but is quite rare anyway as the tiles are large and tend not to meet at a single point.
  • It is not possible to work on a complete planet file on a 32 bit OS, but working with an extract of the whole of Europe is fine within a 2G heap size. A single country is not a problem at all, even a well mapped one.

is there something you or I can do or does this need to be fixed in Mkgmap? eg can we split Aust in two or reposition tiles ?

I’m reluctant to make an exception for Australia because of the way yournavigation routing database and the garmin file generation work. I’m gearing towards full automatic generation of both… Australia would be relatively easy to make an exception for but I assume this problem doesn’t occur only in Australia. This should be fixed in the tools (Splitter in this case) rather than try working around it.

ok any idea when I should try again, or what/where to watch for updates?

No idea, I always hope that services like this and yournavigation.org generate a surge in software development. At least the latter one did that exactly. Splitter is maintained here: http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/svn/wsvn/splitter/

Lambertus I think your work is awsome, you must be incredibly clever!

I’d like to see software that can grab data from an MP file and upload it to OSM. The map I’ve made using Mapedit is superior to the OSM one because it’s so much more user friendly.

Question, where do you see the future of mapping going and where will your own projects lead?
:stuck_out_tongue:

Regards

Treadly

Lol thanks. But no, the people who develop Mkgmap are the clever ones here :slight_smile:

An MP to OSM converter? Just out of curiosity: What makes Mapedit so much better then JOSM then Merkaator?

Pff, difficult question this early. Well, I hope to see much more use of OSM data (why would we map anyway otherwise?). Mostly my projects appear at the time OSM is ready for it. E.g. the forum was introduced when OSM became also interesting to people other then geeks. Yournavigation.org was developed when The Netherlands, UK and Germany had fairly complete roadnetworks. The routable Garmin maps were a longtime wish but I refuse to do a lot of manual work each week so I waited until the tools had evolved enough to do the generation automatically. If other interesting areas to work on popup then I’ll do it (if my GF allowes it :P).

btw I assume the Mkmap people know about this coast line problem/bug, or do we need to report it officially?

oh and another request, is it possible to “name” the map so if I download two sets of maps
eg Korea and australia , they would appear separately on Mapsource
So when you build a Map you give it a name , I assume this can alter the registry entries you create right?
This could also be used in the filename too (I suggest keep the name small eg 10-20 chars

slight problem if I install two maps it looks like second map over rights the first Mapsource ?

so is this by design ie should I get ALL my maps in one shot or can I download two Mapsource install areas?

I didn’t know Merkaator existed and having had a bit of a play with it I’m impressed! So far I’ve been using Potlatch and JOSM, but Merkaator looks much nicer and is more flexible.

Question 1: I don’t understand what extract does, how do I convert GPX raw data into a track directly without having to trace it manually? (In Mekanator)

Question 2: When I zoom out on the raw GPX data the track quickly disappears, it’s a bit like looking at a road through a keyhole, can the raw GPX tracks be made visible at wider zoom levels? (In Mekanator)

Question 3: Could some sub groups be added to the forum index for OSM software? For example, Potlatch, JOSM, Merkaator, Mkgmap and a few others. At the moment all the questions are grouped together and it’s difficult to look through the answers to find what you’re looking for. I know there’s a search engine but it doesn’t always find what you want.

Thanks

Treadly