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#276 2011-03-14 11:27:37

siberiano
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From: Novosibirsk
Registered: 2010-02-25
Posts: 1,006
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Re: Новосибирск и область

Опять кто-то наворотил дров? Название "Кольцово" пропало с карты. Не вижу, в какой правке это могло быть.

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#277 2011-03-14 11:37:56

Magomogo
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From: Novosibirsk
Registered: 2010-11-20
Posts: 220
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Re: Новосибирск и область

я не брал smile

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#278 2011-03-14 11:38:52

Ilis
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From: Екатеринбург
Registered: 2009-05-24
Posts: 5,970

Re: Новосибирск и область

В Екатеринбурге посмотрите.

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#279 2011-03-16 09:07:32

Maxim_NSK
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Registered: 2011-03-16
Posts: 3

Re: Новосибирск и область

Сразу прошу прощения за офтоп, но подходящей темы не нашел. А так как рисую один из городов области, решил спросить здесь. Речь о gps треках. Ситуация следующая: записываю треки на андроид смартфоне программой My Tracks v.1.1.3 (гугловская софтина), предлагает сохранить треки в форматах: GPX, KML, CSV, TCX. Выбираю gpx, заливаю на сервер openstreetmap, но как я понял он их не принимает(сначала трек появляется в списке, со статусом обработка, но потом его нет ни в общем списке, ни в моих треках). Установил JOSM, открыл в нем эти треки, они пустые, посмотрел информацию о треке: 15.03.11 18:27 - 19:33 (1:06) 36528366.3 km. Странноватая длина, смарт показывает 16,40 km. Установил gpsbabel, хотел попробовать конвертировать, но не разобрался в настройках, фильтрах, наугад что-то выставил, конвертировал gpx->gpx, в треке появилась одна точка, длина 0,01 m. В общем подскажите пожалуйста как все-таки загрузить эти треки на сервак, или конвертировать в gpsbabel... Если нужно, могу выложить исходный код трека..

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#280 2011-03-16 09:43:54

vanomel
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From: Barnaul
Registered: 2009-05-12
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Re: Новосибирск и область

Ну да, покажи что внутри трека то

Чей кот на аватаре самый самый?

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#281 2011-03-16 11:11:40

Maxim_NSK
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Re: Новосибирск и область

vanomel wrote:

Ну да, покажи что внутри трека то

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Форум не позволил выложить много текста, поэтому код пришлось урезать. Оригинал, если нужно, по ссылке -> http://depositfiles.com/files/ml1vvbq5y

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#282 2011-03-16 11:18:50

Sergey Astakhov
Member
From: St.Petersburg, Russia
Registered: 2009-11-13
Posts: 5,816

Re: Новосибирск и область

Maxim_NSK wrote:
<trkpt lat="54,23121" lon="83,35019">
<ele>247,2</ele>

Это нарушение спецификации GPX - вместо запятых тут должны быть точки.

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#283 2011-03-16 11:22:20

Maxim_NSK
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Registered: 2011-03-16
Posts: 3

Re: Новосибирск и область

Сейчас сравнил его с треками, которые уже есть на серваке, заметил что в координатах у моего трека вместо точки запятые. Заменил все запятые на точки, и JOSM нормально прочитал трек. Это никак не отразится на его правдивости? Можно использовать такие треки или лучше воспользоваться профессиональным конвертером? JOSM стал показывать длину трека 16.2 km, а в смарте было 16,40 km  - не критично?

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#284 2011-03-16 13:10:56

glebius
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From: Moscow, RU
Registered: 2009-02-24
Posts: 1,178

Re: Новосибирск и область

Если JOSM прочитал нормально, то и в базу можно заливать, у других тоже будет нормально.

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#285 2011-03-17 08:36:03

Magomogo
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From: Novosibirsk
Registered: 2010-11-20
Posts: 220
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Re: Новосибирск и область

А в качестве программы для маппинга попробуйте OSMTracker - мне кажется лучший вариант для Андроида. Он и треки пишет и POI отмечает и крестиком вышивает smile

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#286 2011-03-18 03:48:09

titanlis
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Registered: 2011-03-18
Posts: 1
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Re: Новосибирск и область

Нужно запретить поворот с Кошурникова на Богаткова влево, когда едешь со стороны Никитина (Золотая Нива). В лоб это делать нельзя, т.к. тогда прямо тоже не поедешь. Надо как-то менять конфигурацию перекрестка. Гляньте, кто-нибудь, может есть идеи.

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#287 2011-03-31 16:02:55

aleksey777
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Registered: 2011-03-31
Posts: 4

Re: Новосибирск и область

Проблема следующая
Если ехать по Ватутина к пл. Труда и двигаться на ул. Широкая, то навител подсказывает что круговое движение и первый съезд, а на самом деле первый съезд это на пл. Энергетиков. Защел на сайте в правку, и там получается дорога от Ватутина на кольцо пл Труда приходит в точку и из этой точке сразу выезд на пл Энергетиков, видимо этот съезд не считается в данном случае. Я добавил рядом точку на круге и перерисовал выезд с Ватутина к этой добавленной точке. Может кто нибудь из гуру проверит правильность моей правки?

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#288 2011-03-31 17:34:15

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Re: Новосибирск и область

aleksey777 wrote:

Проблема следующая
Если ехать по Ватутина к пл. Труда и двигаться на ул. Широкая, то навител подсказывает что круговое движение и первый съезд, а на самом деле первый съезд это на пл. Энергетиков. Защел на сайте в правку, и там получается дорога от Ватутина на кольцо пл Труда приходит в точку и из этой точке сразу выезд на пл Энергетиков, видимо этот съезд не считается в данном случае. Я добавил рядом точку на круге и перерисовал выезд с Ватутина к этой добавленной точке. Может кто нибудь из гуру проверит правильность моей правки?

Убрал трамвайный путь с этого поворота, а так вроде всё в норме. Правда, я не совсем согласен с идеей, что надо их разделять в угоду навителу, хотя тут ничего криминального не случается.

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#289 2011-04-01 03:54:09

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дык дело то не в трамвайном пути
а то, что неправильно считает съезды, скорее всего из за того что так нарисовано и съездов получается меньше
Судя по форуму и в других городах много таких багов, потому что народ пишет, что если навител сказал первый съезд, то не факт что он будет не первый, а второй и этого бага, а не угода навителу.
К слову сказать проверил на НН5 проезд этого кольца, он мне честно сказал, что съезд 2-ой.

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#290 2011-04-01 04:27:30

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Re: Новосибирск и область

aleksey777 wrote:

дык дело то не в трамвайном пути
а то, что неправильно считает съезды, скорее всего из за того что так нарисовано и съездов получается меньше
Судя по форуму и в других городах много таких багов, потому что народ пишет, что если навител сказал первый съезд, то не факт что он будет не первый, а второй и этого бага, а не угода навителу.
К слову сказать проверил на НН5 проезд этого кольца, он мне честно сказал, что съезд 2-ой.

Нет, тут дело в том, что навител не считает путь, касающийся кольца в одной точке как проезд по кольцу. Впрочем, я не уверен, что обозначение въездов и выездов с кольца через одну точку тоже есть правильно.

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#291 2011-04-01 07:32:09

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Ну вот я и подвинул поэтому въезд что бы от выезда был кусок проезда по кольцу
Надеюсь что правильно.

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#292 2011-04-01 17:23:36

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Re: Новосибирск и область

В продолжение темы райцентров: рисую и подписываю улицы (до адресов пока дело не дошло) в них.

По сравнению с февралём, улучшилось: Северное (появились улицы), Чистоозёрное (подписаны почти все улицы), Венгерово (обведены кварталы и подписаны почти все улицы), Здвинск (обведены и подписаны улицы), Искитим (продолжаю подписывать улицы)

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#293 2011-04-21 09:31:51

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Ура! Появились 2 новых снимка высокого разрешения, один из них полностью покрывает райцентр Северное!

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#294 2011-05-02 16:40:39

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Re: Новосибирск и область

Расставляю коды дорог и немного правлю статусы по вот этому перечню (18.02.2010)

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#295 2011-05-09 21:03:57

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Рисую свою деревню по своим трекам и по кадастровой карте. Очень чешутся ручки нарисовать более-менее большие массивы леса, чтобы не так грустно и пусто выглядело все. Однако, источник только плохонькие снимки с космоса, поэтому качество плохое, а погрешности высокие. Стоит ли вообще заморачиваться на леса, хотя очень хочется? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=55.12 … 3&layers=M

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#296 2011-05-09 22:06:15

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Разве что можно подвинуть снимок точнее, т.к. снимки ландсат очень неточно расположены.

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#297 2011-05-17 14:10:07

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Re: Новосибирск и область

тут новость про перекрытие дороги Карпысак-Тогучин появилась http://news.ngs.ru/more/89757/
надо как-то перерисовать участок

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#298 2011-05-18 11:55:41

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Re: Новосибирск и область

В новости ошиблись, не 130 км, а 113-114 км. Нарисовал всё как нужно.

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#299 2011-05-18 19:58:54

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дорога будет закрыта в пределах лесного массива, я так понимаю, из-за невозможности сделать объезд. участок прямо от моста через речку Буготак и до опушки. не?

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#300 2011-05-18 21:02:25

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Из новости мне это не понятно. Я просто отмерил 113 км, где будут идти работы.

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