Israel Hiking map

It’s just a reporting script.

I’m not sure I like batch-editing. It can be hazardeous.
We have a bad experience with it.
At one point we wanted to translate all names from the GeonetNameServer to Hebrew, and we ended up with 3 nodes instead of one.
We still have some lurking around…

I already changed everything to *_stripe.
I also contacted Lonvia, to have the map support our 3-colors markings.

talkat.

Updates from Lonvia’s Hiking Map:
It now supports our 3 color markings for the Israel Trail and the Golan Trail.
See example here.

There’s also added support for orange_stripe, which was missing.

Mind you, Lonvia’s is a hiking map, so cycling routes are not supported.

These are supported by the Cycle Map on the main OSM site,
and hikebikemap.

talkat.

Very good news!
Want more good news?!
Colin has implemented support for black bars and stripes!

The cycle map is (for now) an odd combination of required topography, extremely slow updating and selective routes representation.

If you have any comments - Feel free to write them in the Talk Page of the IsraelTrail wiki page.

I’ve added counters, so you can follow the progress.
Today (1/Dec) we have 100 marked trails. Yesterday (30/Nov) we had 86.
WOW!

talkat.

I don’t see any biking routes on hikebikemap yet…

You’ve got a comment :slight_smile:

Only those with *_stripe.
The biking routes with *_dot are not yet supported.
I’ll contact Colin about this.

talkat.

Maybe the order of the stripes for INT and Golan should be reversed? See here.

Doesn’t it depend whether you go north-south or south-north?

If we change them, we need to inform Lonvia.
(and I’ll need to update my script, but for you I’ll do it free of charge. :wink: )

talkat.

I don’t know for sure, but here’s what Wikipedia has to say about the matter:

We better make sure before changing anything, I wouldn’t want to give you extra work :slight_smile:

Ooops, youre right! My bad.
Ok, I’ll inform Lonvia.

talkat.

All LCN’s but the Ness Tziona route (which I’m not familiar with) are also hiking trails.
What is the default? (I’ve previously proposed hiking with bicycle=yes)
And BTW… horses…
K20 was builed with horses and not bikes in mind.
I did not check yet but it should be taged accordingly.

Ness Ziona Scenic is definitely NOT a hiking trail, it doesn’t have ITC markings.
Are the other LCN’s officially marked as biking routes?

The Nes Ziona route is marked with a Bike symbols along its length and tends to go up and down hills for biking fun. Hikers are allowed of course.

FYI, Lonvia only shows routes where route=hiking
(route=bicycle are not shown on the map at all!)

I agree that the default should be route=hiking except were this is a specific bicycle route, like the TLV-JM Route, and the Nes Ziona Route.

According to the Key:access wiki page, horse routes should be tagged as route=horse.

Strange that the Key:route wiki page doesn’t mention horse routes.
I remember seeing many of them in the UK.

Not only dimka gives me additional work, now you make me change the IsraelTrails script to include horse routes?.. :wink:

P.S.
How about bus routes?
We have quite a few in Beer Sheva, and only a handful in Netanya and Jerusalem.
But that’s for another topic…

talkat.

bridleway is the name for a horse-riding route.

No, that is the tagging of the way itself. For the relation route=horse is the correct tagging, but they are scarce. AFAIK they are only rendered on the hiking&trail riding map.

bye
Nop

OK
Since the horses are probably best described as “an exotic mean for traveling” we can probably ignore it and wait for some riding fan to work on this issue in the future.

Maybe in the meantime, add horse=designated to the ways?

talkat.

As of this moment, the INT and the Golan seem to have the old markings on lonvia.