"free" Navigator 10 by mapfactor.com ... uses OSM data

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thank you
Martin/md/mapfactor

From discussion in German forum (which I am unfortunately not able to fully follow) … there was/is an issue related to address search. MapFactor Navigator search is based on administrative levels, so standard search is

  1. select country
  2. select city/town/village (narrow search by typing the begin of the word)
  3. select street
    This is an ideal pass. In many cases there is step 2b, if there is more than one town of the same name, or 3b if there are more streets of the same name in the city.

The question is what OSM admin_level should be used in step 2. This is probably country specific - for example
in Czech Republic for step 2 are used admin_level = 7 (district), 8 (city) and 10 (part of city)
[it is rather exception, because the data are probably imported and make sense for the whole country].
What admin_level search would you expect in Germany?

There are many countries (Canada for example) where basically NO admin areas are available :(. For this reason we also added search in “nearby city” (defined by node ‘place’). This may add to confusion in countries, where the administrative hierarchy is well defined. Should that be removed? Note, that this “near rule” does not apply for POIs which are completely based on admin areas only (in current version 10.1.20, it may change in the future).

@mapfactor:

to get an overview of used boundary lines and relations you can have a look at tools.geofabrik.de → OSM-Inspector → View: Boundaries

Unfortunately this view of the inspector is currently only available for Europe.

There you can see which country and all structures down the hierarchy are used and covered for each country. Try unchecking the checkboxes for each level when you zoomed in enough. (but now I see that you cannot display levels > 4 in detail here …)

Can this help?

About the needed admin level for the search funtion I would suggest to set the level where the name of a town or a place is the same when you choose the postal address.

But to find this out, we need some examples about the right level and information whether this level is completed in all wanted countries.

Hi! Anybody there were can help me find philippines map for free navigator 10

Processing of relation 443174 (‘philippines_osm’) from planet101103.osm failed due to invalid boundary polygon/multipolygon. I will have a look at details what exactly went wrong …

Well, http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/443174 does not look much like polygon :frowning:

The border was bad, so I used only bounding rectangle (degbox=115.803658,5.105901,127.223494,19.272269). You should see the data tomorrow, after night sync of servers. Please, let me know, if there is any problem … regards Martin

I tried this application and at first it seemed to be like exactly where I was looking for: an free application with free maps to use in our RV to navigate through Europe and find camping sites.
Unfortunately the poi of camping sites (or caravan sites) are not shown and my own set of poi can not be imported.
At the moment the application won’t even start, there seems to be an problem with the france map. I can not uninstall this map by deselecting it in the set up program.
Is there an application to build you own maps, with poi sets, from osm files?

Maybe there is still a conceptual issue about all kinds of POI that are within the OSM data and how they are handeled and displayed in mapfactor Navigator free:

At the moment the app only can display POIs that consist of one single node in the OSM data. When a POI or amenity is an area or a building, it is NOT displayed and not found by the function “show nearest POI”

So we have to ask mapfactor crew whether there is any progress to define a point as a center of an area or building like all the other OSM editors and renderers do to display an icon for an area POI. Can we give more help to mapfactor?

Maybe this is why some camping sites are not displayed and found?

There are two issues:

  1. note from Stephan is related to discussion on German forum, that currently only nodes are used for POIs, and the plan is to extend it for ways/relations (to use the center of mass)
  2. I checked what tag is the camping/caravan site and you probably mean tourism=‘camp_site’ and ‘caravan_site’ — they were not converted yet.
    The second issue was trivial, so data from planet101201 should already contain these tags.
    p.s. it is always very helpful if you can give me some example(s)), thanks

Because of the issue of the application not starting I can’t find an example.
Can you tell me how to update the maps? The update application doesn’t update this maps for me.
I added an caravan_site (as a single node) at my home town, it was not visible in the map 201011230.

an example:
http://osm.org/go/0GXPQKuIN

Can you send me your navigator.log.txt file? Do you use PC, PDA or PND version? It is possible that download of the MCA file was not complete and it is necessary to delete it and start download again. Next version of Setup Utility should be more strict and verify downloaded data.

The log file is send. By deleting the mca file of France and reloading it the problem is solved.
Thanks for the info.
An other request; it would be nice to have the possibility to change the style of the map (colors etc.)

There are actually several map schemes prepared - you can change them by Menu > Settings > Application Settings > Map colour schemes > Day mode United Kingdom, for example. To create your own it is also possible but not trivial …

Regarding the style of the map I was referring to a mapnik or cyclemap like style.
The on-line maps of OSM are very nice rendered.

Hi, I just got Navigator Free installed. Really neat, just what I was looking for!
However, I didn’t see an option for New Jersey. It seems to have about 45 states. Would it be possible to enable the others?
Also, have you considered making the conversion tool available (either to by downloading the tool or by uploading osm files to a web page)?
Thanks a ton!

Hi nafg,
thanks for the first comment to USA/OSM data :). I tried to convert it from planet101103.osm and there were couple boundary problems (see http://forum.mapfactor.com/discussion/5/processing-planet101103.osm.bz2-status-report/)). I fixed some simple cases (or they were already fixed on-line), but not all yet. I tried New Jersey from planet101201.osm and the problem is still there. Give me some time to investigate the details …
thanks Martin

There are/were at least two problems with New Jersey/USA:

  1. boundary - I added 3 ways to relation, hopefully it is correct (see changeset = ‘6595328’)
  2. there are several nodes exceeding limit per crossing:
    ERROR - max expansion is over limit (25)
    id_junction: 922989537, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989506, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989507, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989540, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989510, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989545, expansion: 95
    id_junction: 922989514, expansion: 95
    id_junction: 922989549, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989518, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989552, expansion: 95
    id_junction: 922989522, expansion: 96
    id_junction: 922989539, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989529, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989532, expansion: 94
    id_junction: 922989534, expansion: 95
    … fixed in changeset='6596235’and changeset=‘6596313’
    now it passed preliminary tests so we will see tomorrow …

FYI usa_new_jersey_osm.mca was successfully created so you should see it after SYNC of servers tonight …

Thanks a ton! I really appreciate it.

Some questions and comments:

  1. What is the reason why it doesn’t have address numbers?
  2. If a change is made on OSM when can the map be updated?
  3. It would be very helpful (especially considering that OSM maps may not be 100% correct, as I experienced today) if the voice would not only announce turn directions, but also street names.
  4. I would like it better if instead of announcing and displaying distance in yards, it would use fractional miles (e.g., .5 miles). This way I can correlate the information with the car’s odometer.
  5. Another enhancement might be, at zoom levels that don’t allow to fit street names inside the street lines, the name could be printed over it horizontally.

If I think of anything else I’ll try to let you know.

Otherwise I’m very excited with it!

The whole processing OSM->MCA is still in progress. We plan to integrate house numbers, but this issue is not straightforward. Hopefully it will be available by the beginning of year 2011.

At the moment the update period is approximately 2 months (it is still partially manual process). If you need update of some particular country let us know.

You can use this, but then you have to use computer generated voice: Settings>Application>English:Synthetized English (or Czech Robot). If you use Windows Vista you can get better voice quality by selection of “Windows default voice”.

I suppose you set US units? Do you use yards at all (say 100 yards)?

Thanks
Martin