As I wrote above, KKL has its own type of markings.
But for now, all the renderers support only 3-color-markings, so let’s stick with them.
Maybe we should see if we could help Lonvia and/or hikebikemap to support our markings as well.
That way we will have our lovely map, and hopefully, other countries would be able to benefit from it.
Can you go over the routes that are maintained by KKL and set operator=kkl ?
Or find their list in the KKL web site?
I wonder if a complete list of all marked routes is available.
We can produce one, with colour, trailhead, length, etc.
but it’s far from benig complete, but maybe if we have it, people would see OSM’s benefit here, and contribute to make the list complete.
My previous proposal (somewhere in the first page of this thread) was
Nationl routes - nwn
Shvil Israel is a typical member of this group
White:colour:white - lwn
Kisalon northen scenic route (BTW the name is official as it appears on KKL signposts along the route) is a typical member
Special (mostly KKL initiatives) - rwn
This is soewheat gray area but the JM-TLV bicycle route probably falls here
I will check later about the usage in other countries.
route=hiking:
nwn - INT only
rwn - Special named (Golan, Jesus, Emek Ha’Ma’ayanot, Sovev Kineret, Jerusalem) and the unnamed long “regional” routes (purple)
lwn - all the rest
route=bicycle:
ncn - the future “Israel Cycle Route”
rcn - JM-TLV, “Sovev Kineret” for bicycles
lcn - all the rest (e.g. Ness Ziona Scenic, Canada Park Black)
That wiki page is machine generated from the planet file.
Please don’t edit it by hand.
In the future please send me your edits and I’ll add them to the script that created it.
I’ve incorporated your latest edits, so no need to send those.
If you want to change values of the routes (move them, change name, marking, etc.) then do it on the osm data itself, and it will be picked up next time I generate this page.
AFAIK There are no official ITC trails for bicycles.
KKL marked some trails specifically for bicycles (bicycle in a circle and an arrow in the advancing direction, all black).
Other trails even if builed for bicycles are officially (as I understand it) hiking trails (Haruvit, Masua-Agur-Masua).
bicycle=yes is a legal declaration that bicycles are permitted.
This is not true on hiking trails in all RTG areas (there’s currently a declaration of a pilot alowing bicycles in 5 trails) where bicycles are only permitted on vehicles roads.
This is true or at least not enforced in all other areas.
Anyway I propose to default for hiking and bicycle=yes in all but RTG areas.
Yes, we are switching to stripes.
I’ve created shield markings and uploaded them to the wiki with stripes.
I’ll try and change all *_bar to *_stripe this week.
You (and anyone else) can help. The list is quite complete.
Just take a relation and edit its osmc:symbol tag.
I’m not sure I like batch-editing. It can be hazardeous.
We have a bad experience with it.
At one point we wanted to translate all names from the GeonetNameServer to Hebrew, and we ended up with 3 nodes instead of one.
We still have some lurking around…
I already changed everything to *_stripe.
I also contacted Lonvia, to have the map support our 3-colors markings.
