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#1 2018-03-20 19:41:33

Heinz_V
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NHs have been deleted

In the last days I made corrections on the Nhs and mapped recently declared Nhs.

At least 5 time I found Nhs where parts have been deleted.
In 3 cases I made changeset comments (3 different mappers), but I didn‘t get an answer.
This is the last case :
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/13.1968/75.0502

The NH169 has been deleted in parts. The way has been deleted, but the nodes are still there.

Normally if you delete a way, the nodes are also deleted.  I don‘t know why and how this was done.

I think,  this is vandalism.

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#2 2018-03-22 08:56:29

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Obviously the 3 mappers don‘t read my changeset comments or the Indian forum.
These mappers are :
Greeshmag          changeset 56605942 and 56628667
DivyaVijayan        changeset 57241897
Tueny            changeset 57169642

If anyone is in contact with them, please help that errors like this won‘t happen again.

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#3 2018-03-23 21:33:09

indigomc
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Thanks for noting these Heinz_V. I've left some comments and written to  a couple  of  them.

They all show a common pattern of working, dropping into an area, making a large number of often minor changes, in a lot of changesets. Some of the changes have been questionable, and I have raised some of these in my comments. The editing comments quite often do not reflect what is actually done.

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#4 2018-03-24 15:49:51

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Since yesterday (23.3.2018; 5:47) we have a new problem :
DivyaVijayan  deleted part of NH27 in changeset 57443474.
Same case : way is deleted, nodes are still there.

Last edited by Heinz_V (2018-03-24 15:52:39)

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#5 2018-03-26 07:32:40

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

31.3.2018 : Greeshmag deleted part of NH9 in changeset 5888941!!

Last edited by Heinz_V (2018-03-26 13:05:23)

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#6 2018-03-26 12:48:56

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

21.3.2018 : Greeshmag deleted part of NH25 in changeset 57380719!!

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#7 2018-03-26 17:19:34

indigomc
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Re: NHs have been deleted

I've left more editing comments on their edits today, and messaged them directly as well requesting an answer, and referring them to this topic as well. No response this far.

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#8 2018-03-27 12:25:40

PlaneMad
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Was browsing through all their edits on osmcha and they mostly look ok.

Sometimes the roads look a little crude, but overall they seem to added quite a bit of missing roads to many rural areas. It doesnt feel like they are vandals and the deletions seem accidental.

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#9 2018-03-27 15:05:17

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Planemad: Please explain me, how it is possible in JOSM (which was used) to delete by accident a way but let the nodes untouched. And this by Newbies!!!!

It is not acceptable to ignore changeset comments and to refuse communication with other mappers.

To the mapping quality : They don‘t know residential roads and make other errors of new mappers.

But deleting something by accident and then not correcting the own errors : that‘s an absolute NO-GO.

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#10 2018-03-28 07:27:43

indigomc
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Yes, I can accept that the problems may be accidental or due to lack of understanding.

But they need to understand that they are working in a shared project, that communication is essential, and lack of response causes frustration.

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#11 2018-03-28 10:10:33

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

PlaneMad wrote : „Was browsing through all their edits on osmcha and they mostly look ok.“

According to Bing,… , the position of the nodes/ways is acceptable.
Didn‘t you see that all streets are tagged as unclassified?

Since they work all over India, we now have thousands of residential roads which are tagged as unclassified.

Isn‘t there anybody who is able to contact them and help to avoid the errors?????????

Last edited by Heinz_V (2018-03-28 10:12:05)

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#12 2018-03-28 14:40:06

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

26.3.2018:
Greehsmag deleted part of SH35 in changeset 57527266
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/10.1576/78.5035

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#13 2018-03-28 15:19:20

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Yesterday  DivyaVijayan deleted a secondary road in changeset 57564824
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/11.2113/76.7801

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#14 2018-03-28 15:25:04

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Yesterday  DivyaVijayan deleted a secondary road in changeset 57564641
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/11.4381/77.1556

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#15 2018-03-28 15:44:53

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

Yesterday  DivyaVijayan deleted part of the primary SH5 in changeset 57561659
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/9.1797/76.5920

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#16 2018-03-28 19:00:51

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

16.3. : Tueny deleted a tertiary road in changeset 57209669
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/21.2710/78.0338
24.2. : Greeshmag deleted a secondary road in changeset 56628667
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/23.5210/85.1949

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#17 2018-03-29 05:45:30

Heinz_V
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Re: NHs have been deleted

28.3.2018 : Greehsmag deleted part of SH169 in changeset 57599824
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/11.0840/77.2124

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#18 2018-04-05 20:51:07

woodpeck
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Registered: 2009-12-02
Posts: 816

Re: NHs have been deleted

I have now issued a 48h block for these three users and asked them to at least read the changeset discussions they have attracted, and ideally explain themselves here.

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