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#2301 2014-12-28 10:21:50

ligfietser
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Please bear in mind that every GPS device could have a bad GPS signal and therefore calculate its position way off from the spot where you actually are. This could have caused those unwanted detours, especially on motorways with different lanes and lock on road on. So one should always double check the road signs when riding or driving when the Garmin suggest you should go to direction X, NEVER follow its advice without thinking.

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#2302 2014-12-28 22:50:04

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Beddhist wrote:

Looking at the OSM data I can't see any problem or any reason why any navigator should route you the long way. I have seen this kind of behaviour before and suspect it's a firmware bug in the Nuvi, especially since you say that others work ok.

First step: check that your firmware is up-to-date. You should have the latest version loaded.

The firmware is the same that I used with the previous data file (one month old).

Beddhist wrote:

Also, check that you don't have any other maps loaded covering the same area, e.g. Garmin CNNT. If you do have one, make sure it is unchecked (disabled) and if that is already the case you should disable it completely by renaming the map file and re-test.

Only the OSM map was checked.

AlaskaDave wrote:

Also, check to see if the settings on your Nuvi are preventing use of tollroads or other "avoidances" (U-turns, car pool lanes, etc.)

All the usual avoidances values checked, nothing changed from the last file I downloaded.

ligfietser wrote:

Please bear in mind that every GPS device could have a bad GPS signal and therefore calculate its position way off from the spot where you actually are.

The problem is there even if I "simulate" the route when gps is off.

The problem is even worse than what I initially reported using the osrm routing.
After the detour and the "u-turn" the route is not what is in the osrm link I posted. The route leaves the highway and follows an almost straight line to destination but there are no straight roads. I suspect the file is corrupt. I'll try the download it again and I'll let you know.

Thank you
  maxx

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#2303 2015-01-08 23:50:40

rowin63
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Lambertus wrote:

I'm getting some questions about installing more then one custom map alongside each other on Windows (BaseCamp). I'm not too familiar with this process, so I'd like feedback on the workflow so I can update the wiki FAQ.

This is what I've done:
1) request a custom map using the website (OSM generic routable) and download the Windows installer.
2) install the custom map
3) run JaVaWa's GMTK
3.1) select the map named 'OSM generic routable' and goto menu 'Extra' -> 'Change map name and ID'
4) GMTK will show a form and the following values are changed:
4.1) Family ID: enter a unique number, e.g.: 2001
4.2) Name on computer: enter a good description of the map, e.g.: 'OSM Central America'
4.3) Name on device: enter a good description, e.g.: 'OSM Central America'
4.4) Folder name: enter a good (unique) folder name, e.g.: 'OSM Central America'
4.5) Click on the 'modify' button

For every new custom map the same sequence of events is performed, each time using a new unique ID and name.

This process seems straightforward enough to me. However, when I install the second custom map, the map installer will warn that there is already a map installed. This warning can safely be ignored but it is confusing to a lot of users. What can be done to prevent this warning?

Hi, my name is Robert;

I´m gone through this process and modified the names (computer/device/folder).
At the next installation of a custom map this renamed custom map was overwritten and did not work (it was not listed in Mapsource) anymore.
Then I found out, that in the windows registry (W7/64) the key - after the renaming - still is "OSM generic routable" (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\OSM generic routable). And so the new installation overwrites the previous installation.

I also renamed the registry keys in uninstall information, then everything looked good: in Mapsource and in W7 everywhere was "my map name".
But at the next installation of a custom map "my map name" disappeared from Mapsource and a new "OSM generic routable" was shown. The funny thing is, after deinstalling this new "OSM generic routable", "my map name" was back again!?!

I dont know wat goes wrong here, but for me it is not possible to install more than one custom map...

Robert

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#2304 2015-01-10 02:01:18

Skippern
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Would it be possible to ask for download of entire continent? In my particular case I am looking for a South America map, currently downloading Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina and Chile as separate maps, but have problems sending them to the device as they become too large. There are extremely much duplicated information in such a selection, i.e. Brazil also include most of Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, a large part of Suriname, Guiana, a good portion of Venezuela, Colombia and Peru. Argentina almost all of Chile, a large part of Paraguay and Uruguay and some of Bolivia and Brazil, Chile extends somewhat into Argentina and a little bit in Peru.

My map installer complains of disc space as each of the maps I try to install combined are a little larger than the memory available, but I believe that combined if you ignore the duplicated tiles there should be enough space.

Another question is, for devices with limited memory, or people needing to update frequently on slow lines, what about smaller divisions, doesn't North America and Europe allow per-state or per-region downloads? What about Brazil and Argentina, would it be possible to download these in separate pieces for each state?

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#2305 2015-01-10 05:02:48

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Why not download a custom map containing all the tiles you need?

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#2306 2015-01-13 13:51:36

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Hi,
Entering email Adress not possible on the site?


Mapper aus dem Münsterland.

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#2307 2015-01-13 15:13:46

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chris66 wrote:

Hi,
Entering email Adress not possible on the site?

Thanks for the report, I can confirm it doesn't work at the moment. Investigating...


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2308 2015-01-14 04:06:36

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Where is the download or request link? I get as far as the step below but can't find any request or download button?


Help: Using country pre-selections    Request your map or download it directly:
(Make a selection first)

I see the correct tiles are selected but how do I request these?

I am just trying to get a routable map of the Dominican Republic on my computer (mapsource).

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#2309 2015-01-14 05:22:48

Beddhist
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Lambertus, the web page is broken. The message "Make a selection first" does not disappear after choosing a country or individual tiles.

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#2310 2015-01-14 21:32:10

Lambertus
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Thanks all above for the reports. I think the problem has been fixed now.

Try clearing your browser cache (ctrl-F5) if you still experience the problem. Please leave a message if the problem still persists after that.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2311 2015-01-14 21:58:16

Beddhist
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Yes, that is all good now.

Shouldn't that be a "force page reload" (Shift-reload or Shift-F5), depending on browser?

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#2312 2015-01-14 22:42:31

Lambertus
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I don't know, ctrl-F5 has always worked for me smile


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2313 2015-01-15 03:35:53

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While the problem may be fixed it is taking forever to get a custom map downloaded.

I selected the tiles and entered my email address and was told I was number 7 in the que and the wait was 45 minutes, that was 6 hours ago and now I just checked and I am now up to #2 in the que and no time available.

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#2314 2015-01-15 09:23:09

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Philatsea wrote:

While the problem may be fixed it is taking forever to get a custom map downloaded.

I selected the tiles and entered my email address and was told I was number 7 in the que and the wait was 45 minutes, that was 6 hours ago and now I just checked and I am now up to #2 in the que and no time available.

Is the server involved by any chance osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de?

edit:
I just read an email informing me that the RAID-array of one of the other servers was degraded (sfs4). Maybe that contributed to the long wait.

Last edited by Lambertus (2015-01-15 10:57:22)


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2315 2015-01-15 23:43:08

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#2316 2015-01-16 09:22:40

Lambertus
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Philatsea wrote:

Ok. There is a problem with this server (memory leak somewhere) which requires a reboot now and then to prevent heavy swapping. The last reboot was a bit too long ago causing a slowdown in map production.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2317 2015-01-17 02:52:10

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Beddhist wrote:

Lambertus, the web page is broken. The message "Make a selection first" does not disappear after choosing a country or individual tiles.

Maybe related ...

On 11 January I received the message that my map was being built with current status
<http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/g … b1634958c6>
and now it tells me I should have received an email where I did not.

Should I try again?

Thanks for the help in advance,

Ger

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#2318 2015-01-17 16:57:48

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gkoper wrote:

On 11 January I received the message that my map was being built with current status
<http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/g … b1634958c6>
and now it tells me I should have received an email where I did not.

Should I try again?

There are tons of reasons why the mail hasn't arrived (spam filters, typo in the address, ...)

Queues are empty, so just give it another try.

Cheers!

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#2319 2015-02-11 04:48:13

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moin,
i´ve found probs by the downlods for garmin:
oseam_ng_atlantic_equatorial_ms.zip fehlt, is linket with oseam_ng_carribean_ms.zip das ist zwar korrekt aber irreführend, weil beim download die meldung kommt: datei bereits vorhanden. schmeisst die zeile "atlantik äquatorial west" besser raus.
oseam_ng_atlantic_equatorial_ms.zip missing is velinkt with oseam_ng_carribean_ms.zip which is indeed correct but misleading, because the download the message comes: file already exists. throws out the line "atlantic equatorial west" better.

atlantik us nord = us west coast + ...ms, bezeichnug ist falsch, us-atlantik ist ostküste
atlantik us nord = us west coast + ...ms, description of product is incorrect, us-atlantic is east coast

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#2320 2015-02-11 08:23:34

Lambertus
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Hartmut, I'm sorry, but are you sure you've got those maps from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl ?


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2321 2015-02-11 13:10:23

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moin,
ups, i´ve forgotten the link.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:O … rt_plotter

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#2322 2015-02-11 13:51:47

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It's the OpenSeaMap which has a separate forum completely dedicated to it: http://forum.openseamap.org/
Better ask there...

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#2323 2015-02-12 11:30:35

rowin63
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED

Lambertus wrote:

I'm getting some questions about installing more then one custom map alongside each other on Windows (BaseCamp). I'm not too familiar with this process, so I'd like feedback on the workflow so I can update the wiki FAQ.

This is what I've done:
1) request a custom map using the website (OSM generic routable) and download the Windows installer.
2) install the custom map
3) run JaVaWa's GMTK
3.1) select the map named 'OSM generic routable' and goto menu 'Extra' -> 'Change map name and ID'
4) GMTK will show a form and the following values are changed:
4.1) Family ID: enter a unique number, e.g.: 2001
4.2) Name on computer: enter a good description of the map, e.g.: 'OSM Central America'
4.3) Name on device: enter a good description, e.g.: 'OSM Central America'
4.4) Folder name: enter a good (unique) folder name, e.g.: 'OSM Central America'
4.5) Click on the 'modify' button

For every new custom map the same sequence of events is performed, each time using a new unique ID and name.

This process seems straightforward enough to me. However, when I install the second custom map, the map installer will warn that there is already a map installed. This warning can safely be ignored but it is confusing to a lot of users. What can be done to prevent this warning?

Hi Lambertus!

Your question

Lambertus wrote:

What can be done to prevent this warning?

should be "what has to be done" - because with your procedure I always end up in deleting the first custom map when installing a second custom map. Until now I never was able to install more than one custom map.
Changing the mentioned settings with GMTK is not enough. Also the windows registry keys in the uninstall section have to be modified. I renamed the folder as well as the display name key from "OSM generic routable" to the same name I used in GMTK. Then every custom installation is shown correctly in the windows uninstall information. And only now it is possible to install more than one custom map. And also this warning "that there is already a map installed" does not appear anymore.

Greetings,
Robert

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#2324 2015-02-12 21:32:06

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Changing the mentioned settings with GMTK is not enough. Also the windows registry keys in the uninstall section have to be modified. I renamed the folder as well as the display name key from "OSM generic routable" to the same name I used in GMTK. Then every custom installation is shown correctly in the windows uninstall information. And only now it is possible to install more than one custom map. And also this warning "that there is already a map installed" does not appear anymore.

I dont understand, why you dont use a much simpler procedure of using maps: It needs only a free USB Slot, in which a USB Stick is installed whith a subfolder Garmin. In this subfolder I copy the maps *.img . In the moment I have 14 different maps (some of the same area but with or without contourlines) with together 13 GB of Data: All this maps are shown in the maps list of basecamp without unreasonabel delay . (Only if a map is shown the first time it needs may be a minute to read it.) Another benefit: if I want to use my Laptop, I pull out the USB Stick from my desktop, introduce it into the laptop and have immediately the same maps on my Laptop.
So my Question: What is the benefit of your procedure to install the maps directly on the computer with the need to modify the registry?

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#2325 2015-02-13 09:27:55

rowin63
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Hi!

I followed this description because it was given.
But it has that limitation. And I figured out a workaround - which is simple, once you know it.
Your idea is a good thing too, but I prefere installed maps and no handling with a stick, being around with a notebook.

Robert

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