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#1251 2012-01-08 17:19:17

32110
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED

Is the system broken at the moment (8/1/12)? I did a custom map of all UK and Ireland and the download was smaller than previous. Also many of the tiles seemed to be blank. I note that the date now being reported below the map window (which doesn't load) is dated 23/12/2012, yes 2012!  Something wrong somewhere.

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#1252 2012-01-08 18:07:26

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Hello; I loaded a map (Thank You) onto my Garmin Oregon, but it's much smaller than the area I selected?  I did
this twice with the same result?

Is there a limit to the map size that is different from the memory card size?  How do you select a larger area?
The whole U.S. for example or even a region (SW USA)...? 

Second; even though I loaded the two maps onto  a single SD card, only one showed up on the Garmin.  Is
there a way for combine the multiple maps?  Thank You again... mdg

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#1253 2012-01-08 18:28:08

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mdg,
IIRC the maximum number of tiles is around 2500.
The maximum memory for vector maps is 4GB (All of OpenStreetMap for the US should fit, but if you are adding topo you will probably run out of space), although you can add raster maps and Birdseye imagery well beyond this.
If you are using BaseCamp or MapSource to load IMG files to your OR they both send a file named gmapsupp.img.  It will overwrite the existing file of the same name.  The workaround is to rename the gmapsupp.img file replacing gmapsupp with a useful mnemonic.  Keep the IMG extension.  Send as many maps as will fit in the 4MB limit.

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#1254 2012-01-08 19:38:59

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED

32110 wrote:

Is the system broken at the moment (8/1/12)? I did a custom map of all UK and Ireland and the download was smaller than previous. Also many of the tiles seemed to be blank. I note that the date now being reported below the map window (which doesn't load) is dated 23/12/2012, yes 2012!  Something wrong somewhere.

Yes, the upload broke down because my router hung and needed a reboot. Somehow the upload did manage to update the version number so that the website thinks that there is a new version available.

Anyway, all the missing tiles have been uploaded now and the new version is available. It's using the latest Mkgmap r2162 which should create a proper address index in the gmapsupp image directly. So with this new version you can have a proper address search function on the GPS without having to use Mapsource to generate the gmapsupp.

Last edited by Lambertus (2012-01-09 18:56:22)


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1255 2012-01-09 17:24:16

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Lambertus, I suppose you forgot  to update the style files to r2162?
This is important because in the older mkgmap versions was a bug introduced  where villages got a garmin type that couldnt be found in the place search. (They got Garmin type 0x1100, which is now corrected to type 0x900). In your latest map they are still rendered with 0x1100.

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#1256 2012-01-09 17:40:02

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ligfietser wrote:

Lambertus, I suppose you forgot  to update the style files to r2162?
This is important because in the older mkgmap versions was a bug introduced  where villages got a garmin type that couldnt be found in the place search. (They got Garmin type 0x1100, which is now corrected to type 0x900). In your latest map they are still rendered with 0x1100.

I was wondering why I can't find a lot of streets or even villages and was already trying to create a small test-case, perhaps the bug explains it.

But, I'm not specifying any style file during map combining so it's using the default style file (if it uses a style file at all during gmapsupp generation, I guess not). I'll check the initial tile rendering script this evening and report back here.

Edit: Yes, you are correct, a styles directory from November 19th was used for this update. I've checked out the latest version from SVN so the problem should be fixed (or work better at the next release).

Thanks ligfietser!

BTW, do you know why some streets within a city (e.g. Apeldoorn) can be found without a problem while many many others are not? I don't think this can be traced back to the above problem...

Last edited by Lambertus (2012-01-09 18:55:58)


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#1257 2012-01-09 19:04:31

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There are also some streets 'lost' in Berlin according to the mkgmap mailinglist, so it looks a mkgmap problem...

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#1258 2012-01-11 11:10:53

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Lambertus, please beware that Marko cut down the landuse drastically in the default styles, so forests etc wont appear anymore in those styles!
The landuse can be found in a different substyle:
http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/svn/wsvn/mkgma … e/polygons

To include it you must edit the info file of the default substyle:
http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/svn/wsvn/mkgma … fault/info

Im not sure how and if it is working properly.

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#1259 2012-01-16 10:56:01

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Hello Lambertus
I tried the new set from 14-01-2011. Seems the "find" for placs like Grathem and Kessel now works. Nice.
Good to go for my wuest and mapsource!
I'm gonna use it for my trips I guess

One small buggy item, Kessel is located in Limburg, NLD. It find Kessel in "kreis Viersen" which is Germany. I do not know it it is wrong in the openstreetmaps or in you "mkgmap" setting.

Wim

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#1260 2012-01-16 11:41:26

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Could be a bug in mkgmap or the mkgmap processing, mkgmap guesses in what Province Kessel is located. If the tiles are cut maybe there is a relation of administrative district broken during the process. Instead of Limburg it looks in a neighbouring district which could be Viersen (Venlo is also in Viersen ;-)). To prevent this, you can use Wanmil's boundary file which can downloaded from http://navmaps.eu/index.php/developers/bound
I dont know if Lambertus uses this one.

I use the following parameters

--location-autofill=bounds,is-in,nearest
--bounds=bounds

Btw I see also a lot of places without country (ABC instead of NLD) so I guess this is also a result of broken admin. districts. It may also explain why some streets are missing (Apeldoorn in ABC and Apeldoorn in NLD?)

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#1261 2012-01-16 12:32:25

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ligfietser wrote:

Btw I see also a lot of places without country (ABC instead of NLD) so I guess this is also a result of broken admin. districts. It may also explain why some streets are missing (Apeldoorn in ABC and Apeldoorn in NLD?)

I noticed this in my self-built map. Last month I got a map with correct country code. Maybe a bug in the latest mkgmap Version?

Greetings,
ajoessen

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#1262 2012-01-16 12:50:06

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Which version did you use? I'm using mkgmap-r2165 in combination with the europe bounds file and I don't see a default 'country' ABC

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#1263 2012-01-16 14:28:50

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ajoessen wrote:
ligfietser wrote:

Btw I see also a lot of places without country (ABC instead of NLD) so I guess this is also a result of broken admin. districts. It may also explain why some streets are missing (Apeldoorn in ABC and Apeldoorn in NLD?)

I noticed this in my self-built map. Last month I got a map with correct country code. Maybe a bug in the latest mkgmap Version?

Greetings,
ajoessen

This was a bug in an older mkgmap version, but was fixed meanwhile. I'm not able to reproduce it anymore using mkgmap r2133 or newer with bounds from december.

Thorsten

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#1264 2012-01-18 16:58:42

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Hi Lambertus,

I did twice a download (update 14-01-2012 )from the site to get The Netherland into Mapsource. I selected all the tiles. The first time I choose for automatic selection.. the second time I selected the tiles myself.

In Mapsource the map looks oké, but in my gps some tiles in the Netherlands are missing. For instance my beautiful "Island of Dordrecht."
I send the map several times to the sd-card, (also an empty one) with the same result. The same missing parts.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.79 … 4&layers=M


Groet,
Eggie

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#1265 2012-01-19 14:09:47

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Hi!

Thank you for providing the OSM Data so easily!

When downloading the latest data (gmapsup.img) of Austria today the woods are not shown any more on my Oregon 300. I did not find information about that (only one post here in this forum which did not help me) and I don't wanna create the maps by myself (other users have much more talent in this...) - any hint for me?

Thanks

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#1266 2012-01-19 16:26:14

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If you can see woods on the map in BaseCamp or MapSource, but can't see them on your OR300 try Setup|Map|Advanced Map Setup|Text Size| LandCover.
(Who knows why they put land cover under text size?)
You may also want to switch profiles.  Default "Recreational" is a good one.

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#1267 2012-01-19 18:31:17

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Almost all landuse is stripped from the default style so that could be the reason why there are no forests on the map anymore. Without a style file, the map looks a lot less cluttered in Mapsource now. On the other hand, too many boundaries, powerlines and gsm masts seems back...

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#1268 2012-01-20 12:45:57

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Thanks for the replies.

Newby questions: Does that mean, that with the generated gmapsupp.img it is not possible to see "woods" again? I need to download the tiles, include in Mapsource, include a TYP file and generate a new one.

The old ones were just perfect for me...

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#1269 2012-01-20 13:08:27

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gerhard81 wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

Newby questions: Does that mean, that with the generated gmapsupp.img it is not possible to see "woods" again? I need to download the tiles, include in Mapsource, include a TYP file and generate a new one.

The old ones were just perfect for me...

It means that Lambertus has to work a bit on his styles. In the meantime, you could test other maps. The openfietsmap for example, or Freizeitkarte by toc-rox, or build your own one:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User … lber_bauen

Greetings
ajoessen

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#1270 2012-01-22 22:57:35

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Hi,

great site! Tried compiling an individual map of the US. Did not get the gmapsupp.zip fo download. This is the link: Index of /garmin/routable/14-01-2012/efffb9822886ae976f4d101df7d4b93b. No idea where the rest is.

Thanks for the good work.

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#1271 2012-01-23 10:27:32

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Can you forward the email (unedited) to osm [at] na1400 [dot] info? Thanks!


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1272 2012-02-04 07:15:30

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED

Just wondering if anyone else came across something like this ...

I was using maps from the end of December with the standard Mapnik Type file. In my Garmin 20, the routing does not seem to respect one-way streets. It will route along the streets, but in the wrong direction on one-way streets if it needs to, for the shortest route.

In OSM everything is fine, and in Mapsource and Basecamp routing works as it should. It just seems to disregard the one-way aspect when routing in the Garmin 20.
I checked with an actual Garmin map of the same area and routing along one-way streets seems to work fine. The odd thing is I pulled out the old Garmin Vista Cx with the same OSM map and the routing works as it should, in the correct direction along one-way streets.

The map was transferred to both devices via Mapsource.

I have doubled checked that the problem exists and it has me baffled. Could someone else with a Garmin 20 (or maybe any newer Garmins) check this and tell me whether I am going crazy or not?

Thanks and jama rek.

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#1273 2012-02-04 07:25:52

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I take it as read that you have checked that your GPS is not set to pedestrian mode? I am afraid that one day Garmin will come up with a way to discourage us from using free maps. Maybe that day has arrived... sad

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#1274 2012-02-04 13:26:03

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alimamo wrote:

In OSM everything is fine, and in Mapsource and Basecamp routing works as it should. It just seems to disregard the one-way aspect when routing in the Garmin 20.

Hmm, I think I've read something about Garmin changing the way restrictions are handled in their new models. so maybe no map generated with mkgmap works with the new models in respect to oneways, turn restrictions, maxheight, ...
But i'm not sure about this. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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#1275 2012-02-04 13:40:17

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It would be interesting to know whether this problem only occurs with OSM maps (compiled with mkgmap) or with other maps that are made with cgpsmapper as well. If the latter work then the programmers of mkgmap need to be made aware of the problem, so they can fix it.

Regards,
Peter.

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