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Seldom · 2011-10-05 20:46:01

freewave wrote:

Is it normal for woods and wetlands to show up as lines in mapsource and basecamp? I suspect its because there is no typ file but I really dont know.
regards

Yes, those are the default renderings, and provide a good reason to create a TYP file.

ligfietser · 2011-10-06 08:43:57

chris66 wrote:

ligfietser wrote:
Basecamp has other issues. The latest releases (from 3.2.1) doesn't support OSM access rules anymore....
Cyclists will be routed on major highways or steps, even motorcars will take cycleways etc.
This sucks....
Yes, I have the same issue with my selfbuild map in BC.
The question is: Bug in BC or design decision at Garmin (to break OSM maps on Garmin) .......
Chris

Reports of users with the new Etrex 10/20/30 series show that it is a decision at Garmin.
On these new models cars will be routed on cycleways and footpaths no matter what the OSM access rules are saying....

shawnsumin · 2011-10-11 01:20:12

Your latest update is missing a street that was there previously: 49.065417,-122.291247

Its missing McCallum Rd which links to Abbotsford-Misson Highway.

Tile "CA-Abbotsford" @ http://planetosm.oxilion.nl/~lambertus/ … 240393.img

It was there in the September 30 build? Not sure why it is not there in the latest build (October 9).

I don't believe there was any changes on OSM to cause this change.

Edit:

Update: It is missing a huge section of Highway 1 in Abbotsford, BC also.

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sabri66 · 2011-10-11 06:59:00

Hi lambertus,
First I noticed that country files like Osm routable mapsource are smaller than the one before, for ex for Algeria 57Mo to 33 Mo and the last '09/10/2011' is 12Mo, I thought that Mkgmap made some new dev in compression but the last version lot of highway disapeared, and some streets in my town also. What is the issue? and thanks

Lambertus · 2011-10-11 08:36:02

shawnsumin & sabri66 thank you for the reports. Via email I also received:

The most recent downloads are multiple megabits smaller than the last updates. When loaded in Mapsource many details including roads are missing. I checked the OSM data using a direct OSM reader and the map looks OK. Something has gone wrong in the last week in the OSM to Garmin img conversion process. Specifically the tile containing Guatemala City.

I guess something has gone quite wrong during this update and I'll revert back to the previous one.

hesher · 2011-10-12 09:05:57

Lambertus wrote:

shawnsumin & sabri66 thank you for the reports. Via email I also received:
The most recent downloads are multiple megabits smaller than the last updates. When loaded in Mapsource many details including roads are missing. I checked the OSM data using a direct OSM reader and the map looks OK. Something has gone wrong in the last week in the OSM to Garmin img conversion process. Specifically the tile containing Guatemala City.
I guess something has gone quite wrong during this update and I'll revert back to the previous one.

Thanks!
FYI - I'm still seeing this issue with a map I downloaded 5 minutes ago.

Lambertus · 2011-10-12 16:45:22

Reverted to the old version just now. Had no time earlier to do it...

miramikes · 2011-10-16 01:28:53

Hi Lambertus,

many thanks for you online project it is great!
I am just interested if it is possible to build map based on opencyclemap?
I need map for hiking and opencyclemap is much more helpful in this case.

best regards

mira

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RetiredInNH · 2011-10-16 01:42:32

Have you looked at Openmtbmap.org – Mountainbike and Hiking Maps based on Openstreetmap?

Note: I have not used it myself as there are hiker specific maps for the areas that I am interested in.

ligfietser · 2011-10-16 09:27:55

miramikes wrote:

Hi Lambertus,
many thanks for you online project it is great!
I am just interested if it is possible to build map based on opencyclemap?
I need map for hiking and opencyclemap is much more helpful in this case.
best regards
mira

Yes, we are planning to release a world wide version of my Openfietsmap (fiets=cycling in Dutch), it's now available for the Benelux and Germany on my website.
Depends when Lambertus gets his server ready, any progress Lambertus?

miramikes · 2011-10-16 12:34:36

RetiredInNH wrote:

Have you looked at Openmtbmap.org – Mountainbike and Hiking Maps based on Openstreetmap?
Note: I have not used it myself as there are hiker specific maps for the areas that I am interested in.

Thank you for link ... very interesting. Actually in this case I am searching more for hikers maps too.
Especially what I missing are "contours" ... generally I need more TOPO information.

The problem can be also partly on my side too ...
I just bought my very first GPS (Garmin 78s) and both maps
( from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ and from http://openmtbmap.org/)
doesn't show contour and others TOPO details for hiking.

Moreover I am using linux ... I am just copying *.img files to garmin/ directory.

Maybe I do something wrong?

regards

mira

miramikes · 2011-10-16 12:38:15

ligfietser wrote:

Yes, we are planning to release a world wide version of my Openfietsmap (fiets=cycling in Dutch), it's now available for the Benelux and Germany on my website.
Depends when Lambertus gets his server ready, any progress Lambertus?

That's great ... I am interested in South America maps now. It will be also possible to get them in cycling version?

regards

mira

ligfietser · 2011-10-16 18:37:20

If the contour lines are what you need in the cycling version, I dont think we will add that soon.
There are maybe other free maps that have contours, dont know if openmtb have them for south america.

To install the maps on your Garmin, you only need the gmapsupp.img version and copy this to the garmin directory
The other imgs are tiles for your computer (Mapsource).

miramikes · 2011-10-16 22:06:05

ligfietser wrote:

If the contour lines are what you need in the cycling version, I dont think we will add that soon.

Contour lines would be great, but any addition of topo details would be big improvement for me.
Now I have just white places for ground and blue for warter and routes of course. But for hiking it is not ideal

Can be some improvement in topo details expected by adding cyclemap possibility?
I mean various green colors for forest and grassy places, brown tones for mountains ... and so on.

ligfietser wrote:

There are maybe other free maps that have contours, dont know if openmtb have them for south america.

I checked openmtb... not for south america just for europe.
Even Garmin offers just "Google imaginary" what is just picture from googleearth for South America. It is not really a map.

ligfietser wrote:

To install the maps on your Garmin, you only need the gmapsupp.img version and copy this to the garmin directory
The other imgs are tiles for your computer (Mapsource).

Thank you for clarifying this.

regards

mira

ligfietser · 2011-10-17 08:18:54

There are some improvements because the cyclemap has its own style and typ file (see my website for screenshots), which are going to be implemented as well in the general world routable maps as well, see for some examples this topic: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopi … =13257&p=2

The landuses are of course limited because the details of the OSM map in South America is not quite as rich as here in Western Europe.

As for the brown tones for mountains like the shaded relief map that opencyclemap is using, we are not able to produce this on a Garmin. Garmin self has its own world based relief map, don't know if you have it on your gps. There are versions of this world dem map downloadable but this is of course illegal ;-)

miramikes · 2011-10-17 17:04:22

ligfietser wrote:

As for the brown tones for mountains like the shaded relief map that opencyclemap is using, we are not able to produce this on a Garmin. Garmin self has its own world based relief map, don't know if you have it on your gps.]

Thank you ... I got base map works on my garmin it was done by bad setting (disabled shading also disable base map)

I have one other problem ... when I am using OSM and garmin base map together in higher resolution (below 300km) sea area change color from blue to green.
It makes orientation quite difficult especially in area with many channels and islands. Interesting is that rivers and lakes stay blue.
When I turn off OSM sea is again blue, but need have both maps on.

Any idea how to fix it?

mira

ligfietser · 2011-10-17 18:10:29

I think there is nothing wrong with your unit, it is just the fact that the world routable osm map doesn't render the sea or oceans yet, and thus shows the background colour (which could be green?). Rivers and lakes are rendered, so thats why you only see blue there and not in the sea :-)

There is no way to fix this, until Lambertus will decide to render the seas.

miramikes · 2011-10-17 18:32:13

ligfietser wrote:

There is no way to fix this, until Lambertus will decide to render the seas.

It would be great ... Please Lambertus do it

Lalith Herath · 2011-10-19 09:48:12

Please update the Sri Lankan Map again. Also tell me how can I help to update the Sri Lankan map

Seldom · 2011-10-19 16:12:17

There's a lot to read, Lalith. Start here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide

Lambertus · 2011-10-21 13:50:32

ligfietser wrote:

Depends when Lambertus gets his server ready, any progress Lambertus?

Sorry this is moving forward so slowly. Been very busy @work and was just away for a week without internet. I'll try to get to it this weekend.

shawnsumin · 2011-10-21 20:21:32

So did you figure out what caused the map update to fail? (causing you to revert to September 30th version).

Also do you know what is the progress in mkgmap adding Street Address support. From what I understand you are waiting for the Street Address support to land in mkgmap trunk branch?

Also a little confused about the Street Address in OSM via web browser.

Is Searching by Street Address supposed to work via the web browser: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ ?

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JacobGarvelink · 2011-10-22 17:02:11

Hi There, really great stuff openstreetmap! I have a (probably noob) question. I have selected one tile (southern Portugal) last evening, I did receive the confirmation e-mail but I have not yet received the e-mail of my 'window opening' eventhough this should have been open this morning. I am probably just impatient but I was wondering wether there might be something wrong with server? I am leaving on Monday so this is why I am bit pressed for time. At this moment the delay seems to be 1.2 days! Sorry for bothering you, I hope somebody finds time to help.

Lambertus · 2011-10-22 17:49:22

shawnsumin wrote:

So did you figure out what caused the map update to fail? (causing you to revert to September 30th version).

No. There are no logs and the terminal that contains the script output was killed because the update looked good at first glance.

Also do you know what is the progress in mkgmap adding Street Address support. From what I understand you are waiting for the Street Address support to land in mkgmap trunk branch?

Address search is working reasonably well and assigning the streets to the localities is also working much better after the locator branch was merged with trunk. Use MapSource to create a good address index for the GPS, the gmapsupp as provided by the website isn't as good in that aspect.

Also a little confused about the Street Address in OSM via web browser.

That service is provided by the Nominatim software. The streetnames, places etc are part of the OSM data and Nominatim is a fast geolocator. The problem with the Garmin maps is that the index format wasn't understood very well for a long time. That's why Nominatim worked quite well and Garmin maps not. But as said things are shaping up.

Is Searching by Street Address supposed to work via the web browser: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ ?

Finding a housenumber will be difficult as most housenumbers aren't mapped yet. But finding a street or placename should work very well, but also depending on the fact if it is mapped.

JacobGarvelink wrote:

Hi There, really great stuff openstreetmap! I have a (probably noob) question. I have selected one tile (southern Portugal) last evening, I did receive the confirmation e-mail but I have not yet received the e-mail of my 'window opening' eventhough this should have been open this morning. I am probably just impatient but I was wondering wether there might be something wrong with server? I am leaving on Monday so this is why I am bit pressed for time. At this moment the delay seems to be 1.2 days! Sorry for bothering you, I hope somebody finds time to help.

The custom map server (i.e. non-country requests) was apparently rebooted and the map making scripts didn't resume handling requests after that. This has been fixed now, you should receive your map shortly now.

tachoknight · 2011-10-22 18:08:38

First I'd like to thank Lambertus for this awesome service! I was working on something similar until I found this, and gave up...you did it much better than me and I love the results.

I have a question though, I thought I saw it somewhere but can't find it, but was wondering what settings the site uses with mkgmap when creating the map; I've been trying to make some maps for myself and I always seem to have some weird problem or another, while your site is always spot on and works perfectly.

Would it be okay to ask what switches you use?

Thanks!

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