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#2551 2015-12-15 17:26:39

rimugu
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

@ligfietser
I am sorry, once again, garmin.openstreetmap.nl are perfect and its me who is messing things up. I am sorry, but the dune thing is not an issue. Sorry and thanks


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#2552 2016-01-21 17:46:03

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Many thanks frequent updates that helped me update not only gps but also printed version (in few selected areas in vavuniya, Sri Lanka).
I installed both oms generic routable new (LKA_11-01-2016) and also generic routable (LKA_11-01-2016). Upon zooming to vavuniya town area, there exists a water tank http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3629402393 as well as a telecom tower http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3753555604 both displayed correctly in the open streetmap. OSM generic ones shows the telecom tower but not the water tank (or water tower however you call it) and OSM generic new shows water tank but not the telecom tower. Is there any possibility to include both information in osm generic ones and/or osm genric new.


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#2553 2016-01-22 12:11:27

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Telecom tower (man_made=mast) is not rendered on the generic new because in the Netherlands they are all over the place, thousands of pois are cluttering the map. About OSM generic, missing features you can request on the mkgmap-dev mailing list: http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/dev/maillist

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#2554 2016-02-05 16:57:13

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Thanks. I posted as per your suggestion. Type is file bit new for me. It will take some time for me to understand discussion over there. Is there any way I can include bus halts and pedestrian crossings with the gamin maps?


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#2555 2016-02-05 17:26:12

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

highway=bus_stop
If you look in the points file you see that bus_stops are rendered:

highway=bus_stop [0x2f17 resolution 24]

Go to the corresponding typ file, https://github.com/ligfietser/mkgmap-st … w/2000.txt
and lookup poi type 0x2f17

[_point]
Type=0x02f
SubType=0x17
String1=0x04,bus stop
String2=0x03,bushalte

With the typ editor you can make another icon

highway=crossing is not rendered so you can't add it, you have to compile your own mkgmap style.

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#2556 2016-02-17 16:44:45

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I mapped for kuwait, but when i am downloading the map from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ i am getting older map. When new version will be uploaded on http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/

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#2557 2016-02-18 12:14:06

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

The update process is broken at the moment (growing pains). I have no eta on a new map update.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2558 2016-02-24 11:47:22

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Lambertus wrote:

The update process is broken at the moment (growing pains). I have no eta on a new map update.

Do you need some help or place when would you say what wrong?

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#2559 2016-03-04 21:07:22

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

An update is running now and seems to do well, so I expect new maps to appear at the end of this weekend.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2560 2016-03-09 08:39:02

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Do you have map styles focusing on the quality of roads? There are hardly any OSM based maps that use this, especially at lower zoom levels. I just wrote a diary post about the subject, and someone suggested GPS maps might be a solution. I don't have a Garmin myself, so really I have no idea what's available.

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#2561 2016-03-09 10:29:25

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

There are currently no maps with styles focussing on OSM road quality on my site. Perhaps one of the other offroad oriented map providers cover that better, e.g. http://openmtbmap.org/ ?

I'm offering to consider adding a specific maptype if someone is willing to maintain the style sheet (I don't have the expertise nor time), possibly in cooperation with this project.

Note that work is (again) underway to add an elevation contour map as well.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#2562 2016-03-09 13:52:50

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

The Garmin generic maps only render paved vs unpaved:

# Flag unpaved roads.
highway=*
& (surface=cobblestone | surface=compacted | surface=dirt |
   surface=earth | surface=grass | surface=grass_paver |
   surface=gravel | surface=grit | surface=ground | surface=mud |
   surface=pebblestone | surface=sand | surface=unpaved |
   mtb:scale=* |
   tracktype ~ 'grade[2-6]' |
   smoothness ~ '.*(bad|horrible|impassable)' |
   sac_scale ~ '.*(mountain|alpine)_hiking' |
   sport=via_ferrata)
{ add mkgmap:unpaved=1 }
(highway=bridleway | highway=path | highway=track | highway=unsurfaced)
& surface!=* & tracktype!=* & smoothness!=* & sac_scale!=*
{ add mkgmap:unpaved=1 }

Openmtb displays the grade of tracks.
Also have a look at the Freizeitkarte: http://freizeitkarte-osm.de/garmin/de/index.html

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#2563 2016-03-09 13:54:48

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Lambertus wrote:

Note that work is (again) underway to add an elevation contour map as well.

Cool, glad to hear this. Lot of people are asking for this. smile

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#2564 2016-03-10 19:06:36

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

rimugu wrote:

The map I got from garmin.openstreetmap.nl (new style) looks very nice in day, but in night profile it still is mostly white.
Text appears with a black background (as expected), but the background in the rest of the map is still white (bad for night vision). What am I doing wrong?

Shame on me: I noted the same and suggested (Well, almost volunteered) to make a night mode setup, but totally forgot....

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#2565 2016-03-14 01:38:48

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I may be missing something, but I think the current maps do not distinguish between intermittent and perennial waterways? This is a really useful thing to distinguish. I gather it can be done with a suitable rule in the style file used for your conversions. Something like:

waterway=river [0x1f resolution 18 continue]
waterway=stream [0x18 resolution 19 continue]
waterway=river & intermittent=yes [0x26 resolution 20]
waterway=stream & intermittent=yes [0x10A02 resolution 20]

This is based on advice received at:
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=53986

Suitable typ file settings for the corresponding object types might be:

river [0x1f] two rows thick blue line
stream [0x18 one row thin blue line
intermittent river [0x26] two rows thick dashed blue line
intermittent stream [0x10A02] one row thin dashed blue line

Of course (if you use these hex codes to distinguish waterways tagged as intermittent in OSM)  the resulting map users can choose to modify their own typ files, or use the garmin default which will render a similar appearance of waterways (as these are default hex codes for garmin).

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#2566 2016-03-14 05:04:57

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Moreton, are you able to post examples of how your Mkgmaps look with your suggested typ file amendments in a typical area with those types of waterway?

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#2567 2016-03-14 11:09:28

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

And please post a direct link to the osm.org area where we can find such features

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#2568 2016-03-14 15:27:12

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/102684 … 5&layers=N

This is how it looks on my maps:

8Fle7I6.png

Last edited by popej (2016-03-14 15:32:21)


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#2569 2016-03-15 01:30:20

moreton
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

An example on OSM is:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-28.4909/153.4227

Mapnik renders intermittent, which is the usual convention, as shown by popej. But for some reason the intermittent tag seems not to be used by many converters (popej seems to be the exception!)

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#2570 2016-03-15 10:56:49

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Thanks moreton and popej,
I have dropped your request on the mkgmap-dev mailing list and I will implement the intermittent waterways into the generic new style.

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#2571 2016-03-15 12:29:14

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Here is a screenshot of the default style (improved, no typ file). In the red inset picture a screenshot of my Oregon. The intermittent stream is not dashed but the label is showing the intermittent tag.
intermittent.jpg?raw=1

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#2572 2016-03-15 23:41:21

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Many thanks ligfiester,

I am guessing that means the Oregon handles default rendering of [0x10A02] differently from BaseCamp.

Now that the intermittent tag is picked up and given the relevant object codes, users who are interested in the distinction should be able to use their own custom typ settings to render permanent and intermittent waterways differently on their GPSr devices, when this does not happen by default. Thanks again for enabling this.

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#2573 2016-03-17 23:05:27

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Or, I wonder if it could be a problem with the suggested style rules placing dashed lines over solid lines (where they may not be visible). If so, popej has provided the simplest solution at http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=53986 (put the intermittent rule before the corresponding permanent waterway rule in the style).

ligfiester, you probably already tried something like this. But it may help other novices like me working on their own small map areas using mkgmap. It does work with distinct rendering of intermittent vs permanent waterways in an overlay map on a nuvi, the only GPSr I have tried so far.

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#2574 2016-03-30 05:49:24

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Can anything be done to improve the default rendering of cliff lines? A good example is:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-28.5738/153.3888

OSM standard (Mapnik?) rendering handles this well, with unlabelled markings like those on a topo map. But the garmin-converted map from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ gives poor/confusing appearance in BaseCamp at least, with variably-spaced strings of blue squares which have a "Land Feature" label on hover. As cliffs are marked in part for safety, it would be good to use the common topographic map convention if possible.

Edit: OOPS! I see this is done well in the new style already available for download. Others may also be interested to compare this 'new style' for any feature that needs more typ info for rendering.

Last edited by moreton (2016-03-30 06:22:14)

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#2575 2016-04-14 06:37:39

Umapathy
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

ligfietser wrote:

highway=bus_stop
If you look in the points file you see that bus_stops are rendered:

highway=bus_stop [0x2f17 resolution 24]

Go to the corresponding typ file, https://github.com/ligfietser/mkgmap-st … w/2000.txt
and lookup poi type 0x2f17

[_point]
Type=0x02f
SubType=0x17
String1=0x04,bus stop
String2=0x03,bushalte

With the typ editor you can make another icon

highway=crossing is not rendered so you can't add it, you have to compile your own mkgmap style.

I am sorry for the belated reply. Though I found the first one (0x2f17) but I couldn't find the second one (0x2f17) in 2000.txt may be it's updated. Will you please guide me. I am really sorry to bother once again.


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