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#26 2012-12-22 18:46:46

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

About name:en
this tag is for rendering map for english speaking people, so if some name have well known english translation - it must be used. And if we have such well known name - all transliterations like "Yerushalaim" unneeded.

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#27 2012-12-23 14:19:06

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

If somebody want to review (and update) all city and towns he/en/ar/ru names:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … VBrOVBCTEE

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#28 2012-12-23 15:32:20

eric22
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

yrtimiD wrote:

If somebody want to review (and update) all city and towns he/en/ar/ru names:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … VBrOVBCTEE

We can use Wikipedia as a resource for this, right?

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#29 2012-12-23 17:59:30

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

eric22 wrote:

We can use Wikipedia as a resource for this, right?

For checking names and adding wiki links - I think yes.

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#30 2012-12-23 19:06:49

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

If for some city we have both node and way with almost same tags:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/27132996
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27244120

What would you do?

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#31 2012-12-23 20:39:33

Tzafrir Cohen
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

It's an area. I suppose an area is preffered to a node, right?

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#32 2012-12-23 21:01:16

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

Guys, I need help with http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/278470160

Once it was "Bet Ma`on", but after some update became partly "טבריה עילית"
is this different names for the same place? or a completely different places?

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#33 2012-12-23 22:20:55

eric22
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

From what I understand (based mostly on Wikipedia): Beit Maon is a name used for the neighborhood immediately surrounding this point. Teveriah Ilit refers to a larger area (basically everything west of Sderot Sapir) with the same center point.

I'm not sure what that means for us, but I think the name Teveriah Ilit is much better known.

Last edited by eric22 (2012-12-23 22:21:33)

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#34 2012-12-23 22:29:27

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

but can we call "טבריה עילית" town? or it's only suburb?

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#35 2012-12-24 09:31:51

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

I have created a new table for the first 6000 Israeli roads in two chunks.
This time including the new *.POLY file that yrtimiD posted before (now incl. the settlements).
THANKS  FOR THAT ONE!!!

1-3000 => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … GIxMDNXdHc
3000- 6000 => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … kYtZlVuc2c

There is not that much to do, but still every help is appreciated.

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#36 2012-12-24 09:56:02

eric22
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

טבריה עילית is only a suburb, I don't think anyone regards it as a separate city.

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#37 2012-12-24 10:22:54

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

Mr_Israel wrote:

I have created a new table for the first 6000 Israeli roads in two chunks.
This time including the new *.POLY file that yrtimiD posted before (now incl. the settlements).
THANKS  FOR THAT ONE!!!

1-3000 => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … GIxMDNXdHc
3000- 6000 => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … kYtZlVuc2c

There is not that much to do, but still every help is appreciated.


I have gone through the first chunk of 1-3000 streets and there are around 45 non translated streets left.
Would be great if somebody could help here.

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#38 2012-12-24 20:16:49

eric22
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

yrtimiD: I added Russian names for every place in Israel (not counting Arab villages in West Bank), and Arabic names wherever I could.

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#39 2012-12-24 21:08:22

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

eric22 wrote:

yrtimiD: I added Russian names for every place in Israel (not counting Arab villages in West Bank), and Arabic names wherever I could.

Nice, I'll upload it today!
Thank you!

Update: uploaded.

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#40 2012-12-25 10:44:04

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

Mr_Israel wrote:

I have created a new table for the first 6000 Israeli roads in two chunks.
This time including the new *.POLY file that yrtimiD posted before (now incl. the settlements).
THANKS  FOR THAT ONE!!!

1-3000 => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … GIxMDNXdHc
3000- 6000 => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … kYtZlVuc2c

There is not that much to do, but still every help is appreciated.


The first chunk (1-3000) is finished and ready for upload. (All streets are translated)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … GIxMDNXdHc



The second chunk (3000- 6000) is having around 50 non translated street names.

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#41 2012-12-25 12:34:00

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

Mr_Israel wrote:

The first chunk (1-3000) is finished and ready for upload. (All streets are translated)

Do you want to update all rows or only with "x" in "Updated"?

Upd: Successfully uploaded http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14404762
and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14405148

Last edited by yrtimiD (2012-12-25 21:33:53)

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#42 2012-12-25 20:46:37

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

I have definded all updqted information with a x
But you are also welcome to update everything.

Update:
The second chunk 3000 - 6000 is also finished.

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#43 2012-12-25 23:22:46

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

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#44 2012-12-29 09:43:00

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

New results from Geofabrik and new tables uploaded and available for editing:

1-6000=> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … jhSMEcwYWc  (should be in a good shape, Russian and Arabic translation are missing)
6000-9000 => https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … WVZMlV4X0E

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#45 2013-01-01 12:45:00

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

Mr_Israel wrote:

1-6000=> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc … jhSMEcwYWc 

This one already have nice count of "x". Let's upload it today?

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#46 2013-01-03 20:58:18

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

I finished the "again" the adjustments. A lot of name fixes and combinations of names are done for the first chunk.
You are welcome to upload 1 - 6000 now smile

I'm starting to work on 6000 - 9000

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#47 2013-01-04 00:15:54

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

1,5 hour later I also finished the chunk from 6000- 9000.

Everything is done here... Translation, sorting, Apostroph changes etc.

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#49 2013-01-05 22:01:27

Mr_Israel
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

yrtimiD wrote:

Who is editing the 9.000 - 10.000 ?
I finished it already.

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#50 2013-01-05 22:05:19

yrtimiD
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Re: street names in Israel have several fundamental problems

Mr_Israel wrote:

Who is editing the 9.000 - 10.000 ?
I finished it already.

I saw you connected.
If soo, I'll upload it very soon.

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