Neue Bing Bilder veröffentlicht

kellerma · 2012-09-07 22:07:17

mightym wrote:

Heute ist mir ein kleiner Flieger aufgefallen der in gewissem seitlichem Abstand hier lang ist (relativ tief).

Die Flughöhe beträgt bei den 30 cm Bilder 5000 m, ist also nicht allzu tief.

Übrigens gibt es eine neue Übersicht:
http://www.apollomapping.com/2012/Septe … 7-2012.jpg
Stand 27. August

mightym · 2012-09-07 22:17:09

@Harry

Nee, die kommt ja hier öfters mal vorbei wenn sie in Finthen startet. War so eine Art Learjet 24/25/35. 3x gesehen selbe Richtung übern Tag verteilt.

@kellerma

5000m ? War deutlich tiefer, 1500m, schwer zu schätzen. Aber da fliegen die Flieger die in FFM landen hier sogar noch tiefer (ca. 3000m) als die "Orthoflieger". Dann war wohl mehr der Wunsch Vater des Gedanken. Glaube muss doch mal wieder mehr Wege per GPS statt Flächen per Luftbilder mappen.

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Motograter · 2012-09-14 18:05:39

Hello - new OSM member here, I am involved in Global Ortho project and can help with any questions. Am reading this through Google Translator so German or English will be OK. for example, flights in Mannheim initiated this past week. Cheers.

kellerma · 2012-09-14 18:16:38

Motograter wrote:

Hello - new OSM member here, I am involved in Global Ortho project and can help with any questions. Am reading this through Google Translator so German or English will be OK. for example, flights in Mannheim initiated this past week. Cheers.

Fantastic!
When will the flights for Nuremberg (Bavaria) be done?

Thanks a lot!

chris66 · 2012-09-14 18:44:07

Hey, please fly above my region (Münsterland)...

kellerma · 2012-09-14 18:46:32

chris66 wrote:

Hey, please fly above my region (Münsterland)

Oh, please not.

Nuremberg is much more important than "Münsterland" (What's that?)

Motograter · 2012-09-14 19:27:30

kellerma wrote:

Motograter wrote:
Hello - new OSM member here, I am involved in Global Ortho project and can help with any questions. Am reading this through Google Translator so German or English will be OK. for example, flights in Mannheim initiated this past week. Cheers.
Fantastic!
When will the flights for Nuremberg (Bavaria) be done?
Thanks a lot!

Flights for Nuremberg were completed Aug 18/19; generally there is ~3month lag until publishing to Bing (as you've probably already observed). so good news - it's on the way.

SunCobalt · 2012-09-14 19:29:38

Motograter wrote:

kellerma wrote:
Motograter wrote:
Hello - new OSM member here, I am involved in Global Ortho project and can help with any questions. Am reading this through Google Translator so German or English will be OK. for example, flights in Mannheim initiated this past week. Cheers.
Fantastic!
When will the flights for Nuremberg (Bavaria) be done?
Thanks a lot!
Flights for Nuremberg were completed Aug 18/19; generally there is ~3month lag until publishing to Bing (as you've probably already observed). so good news - it's on the way.

Is it possible to get a rough flight plan or maybe a updated map like this http://www.digitalglobe.com/downloads/c … ermany.pdf? At least which region was/will be taken in a week?

Motograter · 2012-09-14 19:35:30

chris66 wrote:

Hey, please fly above my region (Münsterland)...

If this is what you are referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wettringen … terland%29 - It was flown July 23rd 2012

Cobra · 2012-09-14 19:42:17

What about: Freiburg (Breisgau), Furtwangen, Villingen-Schwenningen, Tuttlingen?

Motograter · 2012-09-14 19:48:42

SunCobalt wrote:

Motograter wrote:
kellerma wrote:
Fantastic!
When will the flights for Nuremberg (Bavaria) be done?
Thanks a lot!
Flights for Nuremberg were completed Aug 18/19; generally there is ~3month lag until publishing to Bing (as you've probably already observed). so good news - it's on the way.
Is it possible to get a rough flight plan or maybe a updated map like this http://www.digitalglobe.com/downloads/c … ermany.pdf? At least which region was/will be taken in a week?

Yes I have one updated today, just need a good place to post a JPEG, any suggestions?

Motograter · 2012-09-14 19:53:17

Cobra wrote:

What about: Freiburg (Breisgau), Furtwangen, Villingen-Schwenningen, Tuttlingen?

Freiburg acquired July 26
Furtwangen and Villingen-Schwenningen acq Aug 1
Tuttlingen acq Aug 18

SunCobalt · 2012-09-14 19:54:04

Motograter wrote:

Yes I have one updated today, just need a good place to post a JPEG, any suggestions?

I can host it if you send it to me or you can just upload it here http://imageshack.us/
After the upload, it provides you a forum link which you can copy and post here

Sprichst Du besser englisch als deutsch?

tunnelbauer · 2012-09-14 19:55:21

Maybe you are also the person to ask: Why are "you" (bing) blurring military areas and google does not? (if you can't answer this question, it's also ok - but we (OSM Germany) were just wondering...)

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Motograter · 2012-09-14 20:01:47

SunCobalt wrote:

I can host it if you send it to me or you can just upload it here http://imageshack.us/
After the upload, it provides you a forum link which you can copy and post here
Sprichst Du besser englisch als deutsch?

Brilliant - here is the updated status map: http://imageshack.us/a/img856/919/statusal.jpg
Green is acquired, Yellow is being flown, Red to be acquired in Sept/Oct - weather permitting.

Ich spreche besser Englisch, ich bin Kanadier, sondern studierte Germanistik in der Schule.

Motograter · 2012-09-14 20:02:57

tunnelbauer wrote:

Maybe you are also the person to ask: Why are "you" (bing) blurring military areas and google does not? (if you can't answer this question, it's also ok - but we (OSM Germany) were just wondering...)

That's a better question for BKG; that is something out of our control.

SunCobalt · 2012-09-14 20:06:33

Motograter wrote:

SunCobalt wrote:
I can host it if you send it to me or you can just upload it here http://imageshack.us/
After the upload, it provides you a forum link which you can copy and post here
Sprichst Du besser englisch als deutsch?
Brilliant - here is the updated status map: http://imageshack.us/a/img856/919/statusal.jpg
Green is acquired, Yellow is being flown, Red to be acquired in Sept/Oct - weather permitting.
Ich spreche besser Englisch, ich bin Kanadier, sondern studierte Germanistik in der Schule.

Wow, great. Thanks a lot....so don't need to cut the meadow tomorrow...you alread have the image. We never had a guy like you here so apologise if we are asking too many questions. I have another one (or two). Is there any plan to update the arial images in eastern and south east europe? And my second one, please don't misunderstand me, how did you find the way to this forum?

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kellerma · 2012-09-14 20:07:22

Motograter wrote:

Brilliant - here is the updated status map: http://imageshack.us/a/img856/919/statusal.jpg
Green is acquired, Yellow is being flown, Red to be acquired in Sept/Oct - weather permitting.

Great so Germany is mostly done, "only" missing the Alpes, Hamburg and North Rhine-Westfalia.

Motograter wrote:

Flights for Nuremberg were completed Aug 18/19

Even greater. 19.August had over 35 degree celsius => no clouds

Motograter · 2012-09-14 20:13:25

SunCobalt wrote:

Wow, great. Thanks a lot....so don't need to cut the meadow tomorrow...you alread have the image. We never had a guy like you here so apologise if we are asking too many questions. I have another one (or two). Is there any plan to update the arial images in eastern and south east europe? And my second one, please don't misunderstand me, how did you find the way to this forum?

No plans as of right now, but conditions could change in the future. I found this forum by way of research; I am working on something that could be of benefit to OSM community and wanted to understand the current pain points and issues. I happened to stumble upon this. I am not affiliated with bing, nor would this research/project I am working on.

kellerma · 2012-09-14 20:31:19

2 more (technical) questions:
a) 15 cm - as planned for germany - has been abandoned, right?
b) when measuring the pixel width (in josm) I got nearly 40 cm. Do we really "loose" 10 cm through transformation process(es)?

chris66 · 2012-09-14 20:32:10

A question I asked myself when trying to map ways in the woods: why don't you fly in the winter when there are less leafs on the trees?

kellerma · 2012-09-14 20:35:00

chris66 wrote:

A question I asked myself when trying to map ways in the woods: why don't you fly in the winter when there are less leafs on the trees?

Because there's snow?
If you look at the data sheet "snow free" is required (for usa).

Often it's cloudy and also the sun is deep => very long shadows.

SunCobalt · 2012-09-14 20:36:55

chris66 wrote:

A question I asked myself when trying to map ways in the woods: why don't you fly in the winter when there are less leafs on the trees?

Shadows, and green...There are only some small windows where you can get the best images for tracing. For Bing they probably want "colored" images with forests in green, etc. They are not making the images for us, we would like images with no shadow, no clouds and no green on trees

kellerma · 2012-09-14 20:40:34

SunCobalt wrote:

chris66 wrote:
A question I asked myself when trying to map ways in the woods: why don't you fly in the winter when there are less leafs on the trees?
Shadows, and green...There are only some small windows where you can get the best images for tracing. For Bing they probably want "colored" images with forests in green, etc. They are not making the images for us, we would like images with no shadow, no clouds and no green on trees

That's incorrect.
If you look at the datasheet "leaflet" is required for HVA regions.

SunCobalt · 2012-09-14 20:44:25

kellerma wrote:

SunCobalt wrote:
chris66 wrote:
A question I asked myself when trying to map ways in the woods: why don't you fly in the winter when there are less leafs on the trees?
Shadows, and green...There are only some small windows where you can get the best images for tracing. For Bing they probably want "colored" images with forests in green, etc. They are not making the images for us, we would like images with no shadow, no clouds and no green on trees
That's incorrect.
If you look at the datasheet "leaflet" is required for HVA regions.

Was ist falsch?

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