Christophorus had this idea a while ago…How about put the major roads into a route relation? I was not sure about it but found it in Poland, where we are helping to remap the license change damage. I have made 3 examples based on how Poland is doing it
Are you fine with the suggested tags for the routes? If I touch the E-roads then it is only a small step to create the srb:national/regional road relations at the same time. Afaik, E-roads are tagged as country wide relations and then added to a super-relation, right? I have never edited one.
it seems class A E-roads are already there…partly damaged. Class B E-roads seems to be missing. except E 662 which looks a bit odd. Due to own bad experiences, I will not edit anything south of the river Ibar, so someone else should fix it there…if wanted
Here is any overview about E-roads http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Europe/E-road_network
putevi klase A:
Put E65: (Crna Gora) - Špiljani (Opština Tutin) - Kosovska Mitrovica - Priština - Đeneral Janković - (Makedonija)
Seems this relation was not broken into parts…you can’t load it at the website http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/33232
@SunCobalt
Could just start by declaring that relation “the parent” and taking the Serbian section out to a new route relation, I’m sure we could find people in other countries to do their bit.
…deleted the ways from the E65 monster-relation and added the two relations back. Doing that for the whole E65 from Greece to Sweden ist something for long winter nights. I am not sure I understand the rational for seperate relations for each direction, except it might be easer to check if the relation is broken. With forward and backwards roles added -what I did- it should be a question of some minutes to create these single direction relations
created single bi-directional relation for E763 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2329192
I was not sure where in Belgrade the route begins, so I have started at the motorway. If anyone knows something different, please let me know. I don’t think we need a super relation as it goes only some km in MNE.
Oh yes, this is relatively common problem, we don’t have enough reliable resources and often they are contradictorily. I also wandered where E 771 ends, and in the same time where M 25 goes (trough Niš or around it), but you can end it here http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.31674&lon=22.02132&zoom=15&layers=M just to be safe ;).
So English wiki was right, cool . However on a related note, right there before that junction there are few road signs some of them are new some of them are old, on one of the old ones M25 continues right but now that’s local road. So what I’m trying to say is, even with data on the ground, things are not that clear where is what.
no, politican, thanks, not in Serbia, not in Germany or elsewhere. Before you can become politican, you must get your brain removed from your head
back to the E771. Another english Wikipedia pages says “section between Niš and Priština is co-signed with E80” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highways_in_Serbia
Anyone able to find out where it really ends?
What is the purpose of relations of this kind? Are they used during rendering or during navigation? I understand when relations are used for public transport but why the roads are connected in relations?
Well, good question. It is not that obvious as public transport relations. First it is similar to borders. You would not need a relation to have a border rendered or in navigation. If you ask for example “what is within…” than you better have a relation. Something similar, but less common, you can ask for routes…“what is along the E123” or “how long is the E123” i.e. have we mapped all roads. Or if you want to render the european E-network only.
Almost everything works without a relation. You can tag ways along a bus route with bus_lines=1;2;3, borders with maybe country_left=Serbia, country_right=Romania and road routes with their identifiers and let the database sort it out. But it is easier if you have a (partly sorted) collection of things.
And one important reason is that there are many tools that can check relations of all kind and make it much easier to keep an eye on things, that would be very hard to monitor if not added to a relation for example road routes over some 100km
I looked at the code and it relays on PostgreSQL database with OSM data. So, I think that the main problem is the computer/server. Do we have any available?
I have no experience with Ruby and Wiki but I hope that with Ppawel’s help it could be easy done.
oh, This includes more than 3000 ways with 43000 nodes. Have started to fix the gaps in Serbia, lets see if I can finish it today
. However on a related note, right there before that junction there are few road signs some of them are new some of them are old, on one of the old ones M25 continues right but now that’s local road. So what I’m trying to say is, even with data on the ground, things are not that clear where is what.