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#1 2012-04-05 22:50:06

marek kleciak
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texture library for OSM 3D

hello everybody,
I have made the wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Texture_Library

The Idea behind is to collect absolutely free textures for 3D OSM models of reality.
For this reason we need pictures of typical buildings ( repeatable structures).
If sombody send me self made pictures for free use, I can try to generate repeatable textures from the pictures.

Best regards,
Marek

PS: You can also answer in russian language.

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#2 2012-04-06 06:46:32

suslikk
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Помогу чем смогу, куда отсылать текстуры?

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#3 2012-04-06 08:26:00

Larry0ua
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Думаю, человек просит залить картинку на осм вики и добавить ее на страницу в нужный раздел

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#4 2012-04-06 12:05:05

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hello suslikk,
please contact me via OSM - i send You my eMail.

I want activate the community, because it is mipossible to make alon EVERY possible texture from EVRY countries on the world.
I understan this job only as the beginning of exhaustive library. This small library should have only the most typical textures, the same on the wohole World like grass, asphalt, stones.
For the future every country should have own libryry wih typical textures.
Best regars,
Marek

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#5 2012-04-06 15:48:11

vvoovv
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Марек,

я предлагаю добавить в таблицу автора текстуры и указывать лицензию для каждой текстуры

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#6 2012-04-06 16:27:49

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hi Vvoovv,
i think, the "basic" library should be absolutely free for every use and for everybody. For the special textures can everybody decide which for license has the texture. There are some internet pages with textures and licese agreements, which maybe can makes difficulties - depend of kind of use.
For me is it the simpliest way to make everything what I personally do radically free.

Now I´m thinking about Subpages of texture library - national or (maybe) regional subpages.
For Example - Sri Lanka Texture Library. In this case is it easier to find good texture for the objects.

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#7 2012-04-06 17:01:08

Hind
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Мне кажется, это не задача OSM. Это совершенно самостоятельный проект, требующий полноценного сайта. Как только текстур станет больше 9000, вики-страница станет совершенно непригодной для этого.

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#8 2012-04-06 18:43:33

dkiselev
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Об этом будет смысл говорить, когда их там станет хотябы больше 100


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#9 2012-04-06 21:12:00

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Мне кажется, это не задача OSM. Это совершенно самостоятельный проект, требующий полноценного сайта. Как только текстур станет больше 9000, вики-страница станет совершенно непригодной для этого.

- Absolutly right! You know -  we need already textures for OSM tools like osm2world or Kendzi3D. As dkiselev wrote: when we collect more textures, somebody of us will have a good idea what to do.
I got in 24 hours over 50 good pictures - I hope to find enough time for creationg of "seamless" textures.

Is in the Russian community somebody with experience in making of such textures?

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#10 2012-04-10 12:47:15

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Please look again on the texture page: I think, we have over 100 textures this weekend.

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#11 2012-04-10 16:22:44

Hind
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

marek kleciak wrote:

Is in the Russian community somebody with experience in making of such textures?

I know how to do it. I have some grass / bricks / etc textures made from my photos.

Also, I created 3D-models of factories and some models for Google Earth:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ … fe51152c5f
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ … 11a6e2851d
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ … 5fa38f8620

GE textures are low-res, but we need the better, I think.

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#12 2012-04-11 07:38:52

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hello Hind,

very nice models! You really know how to do texturing. If possible, put Your free textures in Wiki. We still need typical textures from Russia.

Here: http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotos … 19901.html are some of my old models.

I thinkt there are 2 kind of textures: Small, repeatable for typical objects, and big, really detailed textures for important, not typical buildings.

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#13 2012-04-11 22:33:17

vvoovv
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Марек попросил передать, чтобы не стеснялись и загружали текстуры в вики

От себя добавлю, что загружать текстуры имеет смысл только в том случае, если сами являетесь автором текстуры.

Last edited by vvoovv (2012-04-11 22:38:29)

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#14 2012-04-12 06:17:02

Hind
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Also, it will be good to save real dimensions in file (as ppi value). JPEG, TIFF and some other formats support this.

And what about bump and normal maps storage? Usually shader is a combination of bitmaps and properties. It's useful for nyaa-powered renders. ^___^"

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#15 2012-04-12 06:39:10

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hi Hind,
good idea. Please describe this in wiki, of course, if You find the time: What is it, why, how does it work, how to do.  Recently we collect dimensions as parameter because it is easier to understand for beginners. But it is only the begining. Some users are really excited from this idea and makes pictures.

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#16 2012-04-15 21:40:25

Hind
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Тихо и незаметно я запилил на выходных сайт для сбора текстур.

http://openworldtextures.org

В глубокой бете, но основной функционал есть.

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#17 2012-04-15 21:42:27

Zverik
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Офигеть. Не хватает статей по подготовке текстур.


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#18 2012-04-16 05:21:43

Komяpa
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hind, API, лицензию и дампы!)


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#19 2012-04-16 05:57:34

Hind
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

У тебя есть подготовленный пакет текстур с тегами для заливки? :3
Или для чего тебе API? Сервер не предназначен для реалтаймовой раздачи текстур. И вообще с осмом связан лишь косвенно, через различное OSM 3D.
Да и не получится туда всё заливать, всякие маски я там держать не хочу. Вот о картах нормалей можно будет подумать.

Лицензия сейчас на всё PD, но поддержка там есть для многих, просто они пока не выводятся. Это дело получаса. Так же, как и листалка страниц. Просто выходные закончились :3

Дампы будут, вероятно, в виде обновляемого торрент-файла. Не хотет раздавать сотни гигабайт на текущем тарифе, там всего 5 Тб в месяц.

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#20 2012-04-16 07:15:30

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hello Hind,
great job!
I have support from several countries, so I think we can speaak about next step: Implementation of ideas for intuitive texturing.
Would anyone help with this work?
To be precise: Further development of the plugIn Kendzi3D for JOSM.

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#21 2012-04-16 07:32:00

Viktor Samokhin
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Zverik wrote:

Офигеть. Не хватает статей по подготовке текстур.

Я думаю, Марек может помочь с мануалом по этому вопросу, потому что процесс создания текстур действительно не для всех очевиден.

Marek, could you please publish a kind of manual on "now-to-create-texture"? ;-)

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#22 2012-04-16 08:22:07

marek kleciak
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hello,
of course, I´ll do it. But it takes time. Please give me 1 week.
I wrote already the page:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Phototexturing

but there is nothing about "искусство". Not all orthogonal made pictures are ok for preparating of texture.

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#23 2012-04-16 08:36:56

vvoovv
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hind,
считаю, обязательно должен быть указан автор и явно указана лицензия для каждой текстуры.

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#24 2012-04-16 09:06:19

Hind
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Так, началось. Всё будет. В БД всё предусмотрено, при редактировании тоже есть необходимые поля. Просто в выводе не пишется. smile

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#25 2012-04-16 09:19:10

Komяpa
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Re: texture library for OSM 3D

Hind, в хотелки: куда-то в поля средний цвет.

а API знамо же для чего - текстуры по surface натягивать, в автоматическом режиме smile

Хостинг найти, думаю, можно.

пригодились бы ещё признаки типа "текстуру надо повторять целое/нецелое число раз по этой/той оси", или что-то типа  :3


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