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#1 2011-10-21 00:25:00

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How to create map with coutours ?

Hi,

I have data.osm file 107 MB and srtm.osm file for same area 2.2 GB.
Can somebody advice me how to merge them in one garmin map on linux?
osmosis , splitter , mkgmap

I am mainly confused how to split them right way for mkgmap and missing knowledge about args and TYP files.

thank you for help

mira

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#2 2011-10-21 10:03:06

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

A very comprehensive guide about splitting, mkgmap and typ files can be found at http://www.cferrero.net/maps/maps_index.html
On my website you can find a step by step description how to combine osm data with contour lines: http://sites.google.com/site/openfietsmap/procedure

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#3 2011-10-23 02:17:20

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

ligfietser wrote:

A very comprehensive guide about splitting, mkgmap and typ files can be found at http://www.cferrero.net/maps/maps_index.html
On my website you can find a step by step description how to combine osm data with contour lines: http://sites.google.com/site/openfietsmap/procedure

Thank you for links,
I already checked you sites before wink first link is very nice, all information on one place ... very helpful!

Now I am trying split my srtm.osm file (4.1 GB) and having some troubles, any advice for me how to fix this.

$ java -Xmx2500m -jar splitter-r180/splitter.jar --max-nodes=900000 --description=Patagonia --mapid=63250001 --mixed --output=xml srtm.osm
[snip]
Processing srtm.osm
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index (31250001) is greater than or equal to list size (31250001)
    at it.unimi.dsi.fastutil.objects.ObjectArrayList.get(ObjectArrayList.java:258)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.SparseInt2ShortMapInline.put(SparseInt2ShortMapInline.java:128)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.SparseInt2ShortMultiMap$Inner.put(SparseInt2ShortMultiMap.java:81)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.SparseInt2ShortMultiMap.put(SparseInt2ShortMultiMap.java:31)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.SplitProcessor.writeNode(SplitProcessor.java:209)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.SplitProcessor.processNode(SplitProcessor.java:118)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.OSMParser.endElement(OSMParser.java:243)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.AbstractXppParser.parse(AbstractXppParser.java:57)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.processMap(Main.java:412)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.writeAreas(Main.java:368)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.split(Main.java:190)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.start(Main.java:118)
    at uk.me.parabola.splitter.Main.main(Main.java:107)
[snip] 

EDIT 1
I found this:
http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/pipermail/mkgm … 12049.html
Just trying 1.8 (no ext) version of Srtm2Osm ... So I will see soon

EDIT2
works with older Srtm2Osm
topo.openstreetmap.de/Srtm2Osm-1.8.14.10.zip

regards

mira

Last edited by miramikes (2011-10-23 06:27:43)

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#4 2011-10-23 08:29:56

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Hi,

Now I have both maps (osm and srtm) ready and splitted.
osm map 63240001.osm.gz
srmt map 63250001-63250074.osm.gz

I tryied to merge them in gmapsupp.img by mkgmap (merged manually template.args and area.list).
$ java -ea -Xmx2500m -jar mkgmap-r2049/mkgmap.jar --gmapsupp --route --style-file=GPS-hiking -c template.args hiking.TYP

resulting gmapsupp.img has just 6.7 MB and no contours.

Any advice?

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#5 2011-10-23 09:22:34

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Depends how your template.args looks, it might help to use higher tile numbers for your contours, and maybe put them last on the list?

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#6 2011-10-23 12:22:53

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

ligfietser wrote:

Depends how your template.args looks, it might help to use higher tile numbers for your contours, and maybe put them last on the list?

That's what I did:

# You can set the family id for the map
family-id: 5000
product-id: 1

# Following is a list of map tiles.  Add a suitable description
# for each one.

mapname: 63240001
description: Patagonia
input-file: 63240001.osm.gz

mapname: 63250001
description: Patagonia
input-file: 63250001.osm.gz

mapname: 63250002
description: Patagonia
input-file: 63250002.osm.gz

mapname: 63250003
description: Patagonia
input-file: 63250003.osm.gz

mapname: 63250004
description: Patagonia
input-file: 63250004.osm.gz

mapname: 63250005
description: Patagonia
input-file: 63250005.osm.gz

and so on ....

And similar in areas file:

# List of areas
# Generated Sun Oct 23 06:52:25 CEST 2011
#
63240001: -2617344,-3526656 to -2326528,-3014656
#       : -56.162109,-75.673828 to -49.921875,-64.687500

63250001: -2437120,-3502080 to -2412544,-3469312
#       : -52.294922,-75.146484 to -51.767578,-74.443359

63250002: -2412544,-3411968 to -2392064,-3346432
#       : -51.767578,-73.212891 to -51.328125,-71.806641

63250003: -2433024,-3424256 to -2412544,-3403776
#       : -52.207031,-73.476563 to -51.767578,-73.037109

63250004: -2367488,-3436544 to -2355200,-3407872
#       : -50.800781,-73.740234 to -50.537109,-73.125000

and so on ....

I found some more magics here:
http://thebird.nl/tutorials/osm_garmin.html

java -Xmx1500m -ea -jar mkgmap-r1543/mkgmap.jar'
  mkgmap --gmapsupp \
    --family-id=10010 \
    --product-id=1 \
    --family-name=Cycle \
    --index \
    --draw-priority=25 \
    --style-file=cycle.zip  10010.TYP \
    data.osm \
    --family-id=10011 \
    --product-id=1 \
    --family-name=contours \
    --draw-priority=28 \
    --transparent \
    srtm.osm

I didn't tried yet ... I will in evening
Can you comment on this dfferent switchers/family ID for both maps?

I also didn't check in device yet ... just in software (qlandkarte).
I am surprised that over 4GB boiled down to 7MB and TOPO Czech map has 80MB for much smaller area.

regards

mira

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#7 2011-10-23 23:11:59

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

I cant see anything wrong in your args file.
About the different family ID's, thats not necessary, in my older versions I used different ID's for the contour maps to make it selectable in the GPS but this caused to a lot confusion for the users (thay wondered why there were two maps installed?) so I dropped it later. I also dont use transparent anymore.
4GB is the whole world extract I suppose? I think Patagonia is so empty in OSM that 7mb is all you need.

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#8 2011-10-24 04:47:21

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Hi ligfietser,

ligfietser wrote:

I cant see anything wrong in your args file.

I was using style and TYP from Charlie Ferrero, I tried style and TYP file from your sites and it is working now smile Hooray!
I still have some artifacts in contours probably cause these errors during building img. 

$ java -ea -Xmx2500m -jar mkgmap-r2049/mkgmap.jar --gmapsupp --route --style-file=fiets -c template.args fiets-2.TYP
SEVERE (RoadNetwork): 63240001.osm.gz: Road (Avenida Independencia (Y-580), http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/122279427) contains zero length arc at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-53. … 33&zoom=17
SEVERE (Polyline): 63240001.osm.gz: Problem writing line (class uk.me.parabola.imgfmt.app.trergn.Polyline) of type 0x1e containing 2 points and starting at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-52. … 50&zoom=17
SEVERE (Polyline): 63240001.osm.gz:   Subdivision shift is 1 and its centre is at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-53. … 52&zoom=17
SEVERE (Polyline): 63240001.osm.gz:   deltaLong = -37422
SEVERE (Polyline): 63240001.osm.gz: Problem writing line (class uk.me.parabola.imgfmt.app.trergn.Polyline) of type 0x1e containing 2 points and starting at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-52. … 50&zoom=17
SEVERE (Polyline): 63240001.osm.gz:   Subdivision shift is 0 and its centre is at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-53. … 52&zoom=17
SEVERE (Polyline): 63240001.osm.gz:   deltaLat = 48487
SEVERE (MapSplitter): 63250026.osm.gz: Area too small to split at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-50. … 82&zoom=17 (reduce the density of points, length of lines, etc.)
SEVERE (MapSplitter): 63250026.osm.gz: Area too small to split at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-50. … 82&zoom=17 (reduce the density of points, length of lines, etc.)
SEVERE (MapSplitter): 63250026.osm.gz: Area too small to split at http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-50. … 82&zoom=17 (reduce the density of points, length of lines, etc.)
[split]

There are small places on the map which looks like not drawn properly (I mean contours, looks like small empty spots) usually in some very rocky areas.
Any Idea how to fix them?

ligfietser wrote:

About the different family ID's, thats not necessary, in my older versions I used different ID's for the contour maps to make it selectable in the GPS but this caused to a lot confusion for the users (thay wondered why there were two maps installed?) so I dropped it later. I also dont use transparent anymore.

Aha ... that makes sense to me now ... my software showed also two maps.

ligfietser wrote:

4GB is the whole world extract I suppose? I think Patagonia is so empty in OSM that 7mb is all you need.

No, just srtm.osm was 4.1GB
$ mono Srtm2Osm/Srtm2Osm.exe -large -step 20 -cat 25 5 -bounds1 -56.17 -75.64 -50.0 -64.7
You are right Patagonia is very empty compare to Europe, but anyway I have now  about 220MB img file.

I very like your style of maps (very neat) , I will try just add some more details to nature are areas (because I need them for hiking), urban areas looks great.
Only problem is that I don't have sea colored in blue ... just white space there ... hmm

regards

mira

Last edited by miramikes (2011-10-24 04:58:35)

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#9 2011-10-24 08:25:59

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

I'm glad it all worked out. Those artefacts on rocky areas are an issue that comes with the srtm, you can't do anything about it.
Maybe use another source (Aster data) but I don't know how 'open' that data is.  If the map is only for your own use maybe they allow it to use. The sea Ihave rendered with the mkgmap option:

generate-sea: extend-sea-sectors,close-gaps=6000,floodblocker,land-tag=natural=background

natural=background is in my polygons file [0x010100 resolution 14]

The sea is natural=sea  [0x32 resolution 14]

In the typ file you can set the draw order for the sea  1 and 0x010100 at 2, residential areas at 3 and the rest 4 and higher.

You can also use the general world routable styles that are still in development:
http://code.google.com/p/mkgmap-style-s … world-test
http://code.google.com/p/mkgmap-style-s … world-test
http://code.google.com/p/mkgmap-style-s … loads/list

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#10 2011-10-24 10:14:16

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

miramikes wrote:

Hi ligfietser,

ligfietser wrote:

I cant see anything wrong in your args file.

I was using style and TYP from Charlie Ferrero, I tried style and TYP file from your sites and it is working now smile Hooray!

Yeah, I haven't bothered with contours for a while and have updated my style and TYP a lot, so it may well not work properly.

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#11 2011-10-24 23:57:31

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Hi,

csdf wrote:

Yeah, I haven't bothered with contours for a while and have updated my style and TYP a lot, so it may well not work properly.

I found a lot of info in one place on yours pages ... thank you wink

mira

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#12 2011-10-25 00:41:21

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

ligfietser wrote:

The sea Ihave rendered with the mkgmap option:

generate-sea: extend-sea-sectors,close-gaps=6000,floodblocker,land-tag=natural=background

natural=background is in my polygons file [0x010100 resolution 14]

The sea is natural=sea  [0x32 resolution 14]

That's work here smile

ligfietser wrote:

In the typ file you can set the draw order for the sea  1 and 0x010100 at 2, residential areas at 3 and the rest 4 and higher.

If I understand right it works like a sandwich ... upper covering lower ... Is it right?

I will definitely chech them.

My img file now rises in size to 330MB and my device became quite sluggish.
The reason can be in size of file itself or because of drawing too much contours all the time.
I have three type of contours and would like to set different resolutions for them to not be displayed all the time, but only in appropriate resolution.

lines file
contour=elevation & contour_ext=elevation_minor
    { name '${ele|conv:m=>ft}'; }
    [0x20 resolution 23]
contour=elevation & contour_ext=elevation_medium
    { name '${ele|conv:m=>ft}'; }
    [0x21 resolution 21]
contour=elevation & contour_ext=elevation_major
    { name '${ele|conv:m=>ft}'; }
    [0x22 resolution 17]
contour=elevation | contour_ext=elevation
    { name '${ele|conv:m=>ft}'; }
    [0x21 resolution 20]

Any hint here? I don't understand mainly 4th entry. sad

regards

mira

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#13 2011-10-25 06:37:46

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

The last line is catching any elevation lines that haven't been caught by the previous rules, but it looks a little odd to me.

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#14 2011-10-25 12:46:51

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

csdf wrote:

The last line is catching any elevation lines that haven't been caught by the previous rules, but it looks a little odd to me.

I removed 4th entry totaly:

contour=elevation & contour_ext=elevation_minor
    { name '${ele|conv:m=>ft}'; }
    [0x20 resolution 24]
contour=elevation & contour_ext=elevation_medium
    { name '${ele|conv:m=>ft}'; }
    [0x21 resolution 23]
contour=elevation & contour_ext=elevation_major
    { name '${ele|conv:m=>ft}'; }
    [0x22 resolution 19]

It still looks like contours appears/disappear in same moment when changing resolution (no difference).
And more over ... I have brown dotted line for elevation_minor 0x20, brown full 1 pixel line for elevation_medium 0x21 and black full 1 pixel line for elevation_major 0x22
But all contour are displayed same way ... full black line.

BTW what is range of values for resolution?

mira

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#15 2011-10-25 13:30:00

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

The values for the resolution are set in the option style file:
http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/svn/wsvn/mkgma … lt/options

In the default mkgmap settings are
levels = 0:24, 1:22, 2:20, 3:18, 4:16

By coincidence today I discovered a glitch in mine,
levels = 0:24, 1:23, 3:22, 4:21, 5:20, 6:18, 7:16 but it should be
levels = 0:24, 1:23, 2:22, 3:21, 4:20, 5:18, 6:16

Maybe this is also the reason why they dont respond as expected in your map, because my settings differ from the default mkgmap settings. The colours are set in the typ file btw, so you can play with them too to make it appear the way you want.

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#16 2011-10-26 02:59:11

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Hi,

I solved problem with contours ... my fault hmm
before: $ mono Srtm2Osm/Srtm2Osm.exe -large -step 20 -cat 20 10 -bounds1 -56.17 -75.64 -50.0 -64.7
now: $ mono Srtm2Osm/Srtm2Osm.exe -large -step 20 -cat 400 200 -bounds1 -56.17 -75.64 -50.0 -64.7

"cat" values are not multipliers of "step" value !

All contour has been handled like major hmm

Now I would like to solve problem with sea ... In some areas sea is "flooding" land.
It is happen on the edge of the map and it looks like it is "flooding" from this edge not from costline.

I am using these options to generate sea:
--generate-sea=extend-sea-sectors,close-gaps=6000,floodblocker,land-tag=natural=background

what about these options, might help?
polygons
no-sea-sectors

regards

mira

Last edited by miramikes (2011-10-26 03:19:33)

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#17 2011-10-26 08:28:42

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Ah, the flooding problem...therefore you need another trick ;-)
The generate sea option is ok, you will have to download an extra set of coastlines, because in your extract the seacoast is incomplete.
See http://www.mail-archive.com/mkgmap-dev@ … 10351.html

Download the coastlines_planet-latest.osm.pbf  from http://fabianowski.eu/osm/coastlines/
In your mkgmap options --coastlinefile=coastlines_planet-latest.osm.pbf

This might help, otherwise the coastline could be broken somewhere inside the map and you need to fix it first.
Btw it improves  the looks of the map too, because it shows more coastline & land outside the map

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#18 2011-10-26 09:59:18

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Hi,

ligfietser wrote:

In your mkgmap options --coastlinefile=coastlines_planet-latest.osm.pbf

Havinig some errors here with --coastlinefile option:

java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
    at java.util.HashMap.addEntry(HashMap.java:753)
    at java.util.HashMap.put(HashMap.java:385)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.ElementSaver.addPoint(ElementSaver.java:111)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.bin.OsmBinHandler$BinParser.parseDense(OsmBinHandler.java:101)
    at crosby.binary.BinaryParser.parse(BinaryParser.java:105)
    at crosby.binary.BinaryParser.handleBlock(BinaryParser.java:50)
    at crosby.binary.file.FileBlock.process(FileBlock.java:109)
    at crosby.binary.file.BlockInputStream.process(BlockInputStream.java:15)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.bin.OsmBinMapDataSource.load(OsmBinMapDataSource.java:61)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.CoastlineFileLoader.loadFromFile(CoastlineFileLoader.java:90)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.CoastlineFileLoader.loadFile(CoastlineFileLoader.java:119)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.CoastlineFileLoader.loadCoastlinesImpl(CoastlineFileLoader.java:133)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.CoastlineFileLoader.loadCoastlines(CoastlineFileLoader.java:79)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.SeaGenerator.init(SeaGenerator.java:134)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.OsmMapDataSource.pluginChain(OsmMapDataSource.java:162)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.OsmMapDataSource.setupHandler(OsmMapDataSource.java:130)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.reader.osm.xml.Osm5MapDataSource.load(Osm5MapDataSource.java:69)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.MapMaker.loadFromFile(MapMaker.java:144)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.MapMaker.makeMap(MapMaker.java:56)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Main$1.call(Main.java:222)
    at uk.me.parabola.mkgmap.main.Main$1.call(Main.java:219)
    at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:303)
    at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:138)
    at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:886)
    at java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:908)
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)

How to fix this?

regards

mira

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#19 2011-10-26 10:20:14

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

I think you have to ask this on the mkgmap mailing list, this is getting too complicated ;-)
Out of memory, maybe helps setting java xms or xmx settings lower or higher?

java -Xms1500m -Xmx1500m -ea -jar etc

Last edited by ligfietser (2011-10-26 10:24:51)

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#20 2011-10-26 11:25:22

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Yep, the -Xmx option should do it.  The units are in megabytes (sort of) so you can't set it higher than your actual RAM.

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#21 2011-10-26 19:05:23

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Hi,

csdf wrote:

Yep, the -Xmx option should do it.  The units are in megabytes (sort of) so you can't set it higher than your actual RAM.

I raised  -Xmx to -Xmx3074m (my system has 4GB RAM) ... in this settings my system was heavily loaded for 4hours ... no error message, but also nothing happened ... I mean task wasn't finished, no progress at all.

Some interesting ideas here:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis … stlinefile

Maybe cut coastlines_planet-latest.osm.pbf file to some smaller containing just for my case important part.
Or generate my own coastline file just from some smaller area.

Any thoughts/suggestions?

regards

mira

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#22 2011-10-26 21:04:11

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

You could also try to split the south america abstract from http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/ directly with your splitter areas.list file (I suppose you've splitted now Argentina?)

java -Xmx1500m -jar  splitter.jar  --output=pbf --split-file=areas.list  --overlap=3000  south-america.osm.pbf

The idea is that the coastline outside of the countryborders are complete and not broken.

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#23 2011-10-27 10:24:47

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

Hi,

I tried split my patagonia.osm file differently
before --max-nodes=450000
now --max-nodes=1500000
This generated just one osm.gz file because patagonia.osm is just 180MB.

Then builded  img with my srmt files bring me map without "flooding"

I tried this because I wanted fix some error from mkgmap and this came as nice side effect, not solution in all cases but helped me.

Now I would like improve my map even more.

Are there somewhere hiking TYP and Style files? I need them for inspiration.

Is it possible have also shading for a map?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relief_maps
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hill … ith_Mapnik

regards

mira

Last edited by miramikes (2011-10-27 12:10:48)

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#24 2011-10-27 12:10:09

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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

You can search for a hiking map and look further to find their styles (or ask the developer):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_ … n/Download

Mkgmap has a few examples to use hiking route relations:
http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/svn/wsvn/mkgma … es/styles/

About shading:
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopi … 99#p198599
Better use the Garmin basemap on your gps...

Last edited by ligfietser (2011-10-27 12:11:23)

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#25 2011-10-28 12:07:56

miramikes
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Re: How to create map with coutours ?

ligfietser wrote:

You can search for a hiking map and look further to find their styles (or ask the developer):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_ … n/Download

Is it possible convert txt and TYP there and back easily?
I would like to use polygon part which I already did with line and poit parts from other TYP file.
Doing copy/paste on txt file would be easy.

unspecified (0x00) VS english (0x04) ?
I would like to have one-language map (english) ... What is better choise for me?

ligfietser wrote:

Mkgmap has a few examples to use hiking route relations:
http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/svn/wsvn/mkgma … es/styles/

I will go into latter wink

mira

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