Worldwide routable Garmin maps: URL REMOVED

JaVaWa · February 11, 2015, 12:51pm

It’s the OpenSeaMap which has a separate forum completely dedicated to it: http://forum.openseamap.org/
Better ask there…

rowin63 · February 12, 2015, 10:30am

Lambertus:

I’m getting some questions about installing more then one custom map alongside each other on Windows (BaseCamp). I’m not too familiar with this process, so I’d like feedback on the workflow so I can update the wiki FAQ.

This is what I’ve done:

request a custom map using the website (OSM generic routable) and download the Windows installer.

install the custom map

run JaVaWa’s GMTK
3.1) select the map named ‘OSM generic routable’ and goto menu ‘Extra’ → ‘Change map name and ID’

GMTK will show a form and the following values are changed:
4.1) Family ID: enter a unique number, e.g.: 2001
4.2) Name on computer: enter a good description of the map, e.g.: ‘OSM Central America’
4.3) Name on device: enter a good description, e.g.: ‘OSM Central America’
4.4) Folder name: enter a good (unique) folder name, e.g.: ‘OSM Central America’
4.5) Click on the ‘modify’ button

For every new custom map the same sequence of events is performed, each time using a new unique ID and name.

This process seems straightforward enough to me. However, when I install the second custom map, the map installer will warn that there is already a map installed. This warning can safely be ignored but it is confusing to a lot of users. What can be done to prevent this warning?

Hi Lambertus!

Your question

should be “what *has *to be done” - because with your procedure I always end up in deleting the first custom map when installing a second custom map. Until now I never was able to install more than one custom map.
Changing the mentioned settings with GMTK is not enough. Also the windows registry keys in the uninstall section have to be modified. I renamed the folder as well as the display name key from “OSM generic routable” to the same name I used in GMTK. Then every custom installation is shown correctly in the windows uninstall information. And only now it is possible to install more than one custom map. And also this warning “that there is already a map installed” does not appear anymore.

Greetings,
Robert

opasto · February 12, 2015, 8:32pm

I dont understand, why you dont use a much simpler procedure of using maps: It needs only a free USB Slot, in which a USB Stick is installed whith a subfolder Garmin. In this subfolder I copy the maps *.img . In the moment I have 14 different maps (some of the same area but with or without contourlines) with together 13 GB of Data: All this maps are shown in the maps list of basecamp without unreasonabel delay . (Only if a map is shown the first time it needs may be a minute to read it.) Another benefit: if I want to use my Laptop, I pull out the USB Stick from my desktop, introduce it into the laptop and have immediately the same maps on my Laptop.
So my Question: What is the benefit of your procedure to install the maps directly on the computer with the need to modify the registry?

rowin63 · February 13, 2015, 8:27am

Hi!

I followed this description because it was given.
But it has that limitation. And I figured out a workaround - which is simple, once you know it.
Your idea is a good thing too, but I prefere installed maps and no handling with a stick, being around with a notebook.

Robert

ligfietser · February 13, 2015, 8:52am

If you don’t want the windows installer, you can use the _macosx.zip = Installer for Garmin BaseCamp/RoadTrip (Mac OSX)
Unzip it and place the .gmap folder to the default Garmin map folder. The location of this folder depends on the Windows version.
In Vista or W7 this is: C:\ProgramData\GARMIN\Maps or C:\Users{user}\AppData\Roaming\GARMIN\Maps (please note this is a hidden folder!)
Windows XP: c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\garmin\maps

Or you can use http://www.javawa.nl/gmtk_en.html to install the gmap maps (still needed in case of more custom maps with the same Family ID)

Justin_Leitgeb · February 18, 2015, 8:18am

Hi folks,

First, thanks for providing this useful tool.

I recently posted a problem that I came across to the OpenStreetMap help forum. Basically it seems like one-way streets tagged with “-1” are rendered in the incorrect direction. I don’t think this affects routing. More details are in my post on the help forum:

https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/41095/one-way-streets-tagged-with-oneway-1-rendered-incorrectly-on-garmin

I think this may be what user Skippern posted previously on this thread:

http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=469308#p469308

Any thoughts on what may be causing this problem? I’m happy to dive in further, just wanted to check here first to see if anyone could provide me with a pointer about where this may be occurring.

Thanks!

Justin_Leitgeb · February 18, 2015, 8:31am

It looks like this issue (wrong direction indicated on oneway=-1 roads) was discussed recently on the mkgmap-dev list:

http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/pipermail/mkgmap-dev/2014q1/019679.html

A bit later in that thread WanMil proposes a solution (http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/pipermail/mkgmap-dev/2014q1/019681.html):

Would this fix the issue that I’m seeing on http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl?

Thanks very much!

hbartolin · February 18, 2015, 1:56pm

Hi,

my english in not my first language. If you open http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ there is just one entry “Choose a predefined country”. You can select one under Africa and one under Europe, only last will show. Bug, or not? Would be nice if I can select multiples countries?

Beddhist · February 18, 2015, 8:10pm

Works for me. If you still have this problem:

Try clearing your browser cache, reload page, clear cookies, a different browser.

nevw · February 19, 2015, 6:32am

I too am unable to select multiple predefined countries from the drop down boxes.
The only way I can add to the initially preselected predefined country is by enabling manual tile selection and select further tiles individually or by dragging over several tiles.
I expected this to be the normal behaviour.
I am using an imac 10.10.2 and have tried firefox, chrome & safari.

Beddhist · February 19, 2015, 7:11am

What do you see? Are there countries in the list? If so, what happens when you click on one?

This is normal, after you have selected a country.

Beddhist · February 19, 2015, 7:14am

I just tried this again. If I am very quick and click a country before the map has loaded then it will fail. If you have a slow connection then this might be happening to you.

ligfietser · February 19, 2015, 8:04am

Justin Leitgeb:

It looks like this issue (wrong direction indicated on oneway=-1 roads) was discussed recently on the mkgmap-dev list:

http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/pipermail/mkgmap-dev/2014q1/019679.html

A bit later in that thread WanMil proposes a solution (http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/pipermail/mkgmap-dev/2014q1/019681.html):

with r2944 normalization of oneway roads to oneway=yes has been moved. I think this is the reason for the effect you observe.

You should be able to fix the problem by assigning the same code 0x10007 either to oneway=yes and to oneway=-1 roads.

I think we need to clarify that the direction of oneway roads is always normalized to oneway=yes. So direction oriented typ items must be drawn accordingly.

Would this fix the issue that I’m seeing on http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl?

Thanks very much!

Thanks for the report Justin! It should be fixed in the next update (if the next one is already being compiled, the one after that).

Lambertus · February 19, 2015, 10:00am

This is a problem on your side unfortunately. Clearing the browser cache might fix this or you may need to wait a bit longer for the site to load properly.

Yes, that is the normal behaviour, there is no option to select multiple predefined countries.

Yes, multiple things are loaded asynchronously after the initial opening of the website. It is wise to wait a little when you’re on a slow connection (or when the website is slow).

The last update is still running and appears to stuck in a loop for over a week. I’ve killed it. Will update to the latest Mkgmap and restart the map update.

Edit:
A bit of digging revealed that the long runtime is caused by an error in the style file:

Error in style: Error: Unknown filter 'not-contained'
Could not open style default

From looking at the Mkgmap commit history I guess this is fixed by using the latest Mkgmap version.

marty53 · February 19, 2015, 11:29am

Hi,

I’m pretty new to openstreetmap and use Qlandkarte and Qmapshack on Ubuntu. After I downloaded the tiles for South Korea and opened the map in Qlandkarte I did not know which img file is my basemap. I tried one by one but always only saw one tile of South Korea and the rest was blank. Only with the help of #qlandkarte I learnt that I have to use one of the ovm_*.img files** and then zoom in far enough**. Only at scale <=10km the other tiles would start showing up (see http://postimg.org/image/eziodmnr5/ how it initially looks).
The much more knowledgeable guys in #qlandkarte pointed out that the archive I downloaded is missing a basemap. I thought I share that with you. Is it possible to add a basemap easily? And maybe it helps other novice users of qlandkarte/garmin.openstreetmap.nl.

Here an excerpt of the conversation in #qlandkarte:
21:16] For me this is just a malformed map
[21:18] I wonder, because that site is well known, but probably they focus more on ready made gmapsupp
[21:18] The ready-made gmapsupp contains a valid basemap.
[21:21] http://osm.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/garmin/generic/30-01-2015/b7726d353fe4b19c7e10c7b28bf91e7d/
[21:21] There’s a zip file with tiles
[21:23] ok, maybe someone should tell them, that a simple basemap is missing
[21:23] btw the basemap is not part of the gmapsup
[21:24] but your command creates a simple one from the bounding box
[21:33] usually it’s fine if the basemap contains the bounding box and a box for each tile
[21:33] these boxes are used to select tiles to be combined into a gmapsupp
[21:34] but since the new devices this is not done very often anymore
[21:35] thus a bounding box will do

ligfietser · February 19, 2015, 2:26pm

Thanks for reporting Marty. There should be a basemap (23442000.img) inside of the osm_generic_tiles.zip but it is missing. Also the *_mdr.img is missing, so I’m afraid that something went wrong in the generating process. The mapsource exe version does contain those files, but I’m not sure if you can open this on your system.

Lambertus, can you check why the osm_generic_tiles.zip dont contain those basemap and index files anymore?

Lambertus · February 19, 2015, 4:06pm

The commandline for the zip compilation was not complete (probably has been this way for a long time). Should be fixed now for any new country map that is being generated (not for all those already existing country maps!).

Stuart_in_Curacao · February 21, 2015, 5:45am

Hi All!

I just used http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl to build a new map for my garmin (great tool thanks!)

However, there are bike routes located on OSM that do not appear in the new map.

I know this because these are new routes that were added a few days ago. (note the routes are already on OSM)

Is there a delay in the map update for http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl - or is there another reason for this issue? Thanks in advance for your help!

(sorry if this has been answered before - i searched but did not see a similar topic)

Beddhist · February 21, 2015, 6:22am

The map is updated every week or so. You can see the date just under the big blue map on the web site.

Stuart_in_Curacao · February 21, 2015, 2:34pm

Ah, I understand now, thanks much!