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#1551 2012-07-05 14:31:32

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

It took me a few days to get back, and I read through the replies. However as of this post, I am still not seeing a map, predefined country selections, or what ever is supposed to be in the "Request your map or download it directly:" section.

There are no spinning wheels, but there is also nothing I can do except click the radio buttons or the check box, and click the links.
sad

Firefox, Chrome, IE and cleared caches.

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#1552 2012-07-05 14:32:12

cchatfield
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

The Paris 'hole' is at least much neater than it was before the 29 June 2012 when it covered parts of five tiles despite some people saying there were only two tile errors.
I just added these in from an earlier time when all was well back in March when I had previously downloaded France.
The following are the older map tiles that are missing now.
OSM Generic Routable (63242738)    Overview Map    3.91 MB
OSM Generic Routable (63242739)    Overview Map    4.09 MB

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#1553 2012-07-05 16:11:44

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

alimamo wrote:

It took me a few days to get back, and I read through the replies. However as of this post, I am still not seeing a map, predefined country selections, or what ever is supposed to be in the "Request your map or download it directly:" section.

There are no spinning wheels, but there is also nothing I can do except click the radio buttons or the check box, and click the links.
sad

Firefox, Chrome, IE and cleared caches.

More then 1500 unique people per day have no problem selecting maps and downloading them. I'm pretty sure this a problem on your side.

Can you install the Firebug plugin in Firefox, enable the firebug plugin for the website (open the website, click on the 'bug' in the right-hand corner of your browser and refresh the webpage) and check for errors in the Firebug console? And can you check if your browser downloads the 'deprecated.js' file using Firebug?

Thanks.

cchatfield wrote:

The Paris 'hole' is at least much neater than it was before the 29 June 2012 when it covered parts of five tiles despite some people saying there were only two tile errors.
I just added these in from an earlier time when all was well back in March when I had previously downloaded France.
The following are the older map tiles that are missing now.
OSM Generic Routable (63242738)    Overview Map    3.91 MB
OSM Generic Routable (63242739)    Overview Map    4.09 MB

Sorry, I still haven't found the source of this problem.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1554 2012-07-06 01:40:19

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

To follow up aimamo, the maps viewed fine in IE, but not in Firefox.

Firebug reported this error:

countries is not defined
error source line:
[Break On This Error]    

version = countries.version;

Script is deprecated:

<script src="deprecated.js"></script>

BUT then, I left the page and returned to it, and the maps showed fine in Firefox as well.  And Firebug reported no error.  Did it just get fixed?  Local time is 5:39PM Mountain (UTC-7).

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#1555 2012-07-06 09:01:55

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Thanks Seldom, but I didn't change anything yesterday.

I cannot find the code snippet (version = countries.version;) from your error in the current code, but it was in the previous version of the code which got replaced on June 26th...

Apparently the browser still had the old code in it's cache.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1556 2012-07-09 10:48:30

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Just to let you know ...

Things seem to be working fine now. Honestly, I did nothing here. Whatever you, my ISP, the FSM might have done seems to have worked.

Thanks.

Wow! That is quite a queue length. I can wait a while to get a map.

Again, much appreciation.

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#1557 2012-07-09 11:36:42

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Great smile I wonder if some ISP's or corporate networks using proxies are the main cause of the problem with browsers not loading the latest versions of the website scripts...

Yes, the server is working flat-out to keep up (and work on a new map version at the same time).

Last night, at it's peak, there were nearly 300 requests waiting in the queue and the server is processing over 600 unique maps and bout 2000 unique users are downloading one or more maps  every 24h. These are some serious numbers I think big_smile


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1558 2012-07-12 09:19:20

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I still notice that Paris is corrupted (missing tiles), no idea yet about it's cause.


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#1559 2012-07-12 10:21:26

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I expected this for the bicycle map too but there is no hole in Paris there...Any idea why this is different? Do you use different splitting tiles for the bike map?

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#1560 2012-07-12 19:48:39

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

hi, I download the map of the Republic of Mongolia, the western tile of the three is completly blue, as if it was a part of the sea. Is it possible to correct it? thanks

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#1561 2012-07-12 22:18:14

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

ligfietser wrote:

I expected this for the bicycle map too but there is no hole in Paris there...Any idea why this is different? Do you use different splitting tiles for the bike map?

Both maps use the same coarse basesplit, but from there on they do their own subsplitting depending on individual rendering results. I'm really at a loss to the cause. I can't seem to find the problem unless my whole idea about how to create the tiles is wrong (I don't believe that yet).

hongorin wrote:

hi, I download the map of the Republic of Mongolia, the western tile of the three is completly blue, as if it was a part of the sea. Is it possible to correct it? thanks

It's probably a lake that is not mapped correctly, but finding the problem can be a timeconsuming task.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1562 2012-07-13 10:06:36

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Lambertus wrote:
ligfietser wrote:

I expected this for the bicycle map too but there is no hole in Paris there...Any idea why this is different? Do you use different splitting tiles for the bike map?

Both maps use the same coarse basesplit, but from there on they do their own subsplitting depending on individual rendering results. I'm really at a loss to the cause. I can't seem to find the problem unless my whole idea about how to create the tiles is wrong (I don't believe that yet).

The main problem is that during this subsplitting a tile ID is given that is already in use (Paris tile 63242546.img lies east of Phoenix, Arizona).
So it means there is a bug in your script, but its far too complicated for me to see where.  hmm

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#1563 2012-07-13 10:32:09

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

ligfietser wrote:

The main problem is that during this subsplitting a tile ID is given that is already in use (Paris tile 63242546.img lies east of Phoenix, Arizona).
So it means there is a bug in your script, but its far too complicated for me to see where.  hmm

Correct, I think. But I haven't found the bug yet. Perhaps it has something to do with buffering and the OS because I'm using filesystem functions to determine things like the current maximum tilenumber. The server is tremendously busy when generating a new map, so it is possible that e.g. some changes to the filesystem haven't propagated yet when I check for the current status.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1564 2012-07-15 13:46:40

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Just to let you all know:
I've updated the Mkgmap version that is used to combine the individual maps from a very old one to the latest. Now I'm seeing a lot of maps that fail to generate (only the tiles.zip is present). I'm investigating the cause.


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1565 2012-07-19 10:47:09

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Several folks have alerted me to a problem with email handling: it appears that the system doesn't send emails anymore. The problem is being investigated.

Edit:
The email daemon has been restarted and is functioning again.

Emailing stopped around 19:20 CET on the 18th. Everyone who's request finished between then and 10:50 CET today (19th) will not receive the 'map ready' email. If you suspect that this concerns you then it's best to request your map again. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Thanks to all who signaled the problem!


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1566 2012-07-19 10:54:28

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Lambertus wrote:

Several folks have alerted me to a problem with email handling: it appears that the system doesn't send emails anymore. The problem is being investigated.

Thanks! so it wasn't just me ....

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#1567 2012-07-19 11:58:06

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Regarding the license change and redaction bot I've decided to postpone a new map version for a few weeks. I'm afraid I will get too much questions and confusion about broken routing, missing roads, etc. This service is not only used by OSM mappers for checking their surroundings anymore, but also a lot of users who just want a map "that works", I have to consider this group when making decisions. I hope you're all OK with this?

I also hope that a delayed update cycle will reduce the load on the system after a while which will allow the server to be upgraded to the latest LTS version of the operating system. Since the deployment of the new website and the addition of the OpenFietsMap Lite map the system has trouble keeping up with demand, which most of you will have noticed already hmm


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#1568 2012-07-19 20:13:17

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Hi
I was able to put the .img file on the SD card and it works.
I do only have one problem. The country (craotia) is not searchable...

I mean, if i want to put in adress, i can found all the countrys around it, but not croatia it self...
If i look for citys (an option on my garmin, don't know if  this standard), then i can find the croatian city's.
The map is also complete (when browsing at least.)

How is it possible that is cannot find the country.
Curiously, there is country called Country? but that isn't croatie, as i cannot find the right citys...

What is the solution to this?

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#1569 2012-07-19 20:16:14

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

ilpepe wrote:

Hi
I was able to put the .img file on the SD card and it works.
I do only have one problem. The country (craotia) is not searchable...

I mean, if i want to put in adress, i can found all the countrys around it, but not croatia it self...
If i look for citys (an option on my garmin, don't know if  this standard), then i can find the croatian city's.
The map is also complete (when browsing at least.)

How is it possible that is cannot find the country.
Curiously, there is country called Country? but that isn't croatie, as i cannot find the right citys...

What is the solution to this?

Sorry solved Craotia is called Hrvatska big_smile

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#1570 2012-07-28 00:07:19

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Just finished configuring and testing a second server (same hardware as the current, only disk cache is twice as large), everything looks good. Now I need to think about how to efficiently use both machines, write the tools and update the website to use both servers.

/me scratching my head here...


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#1571 2012-07-29 12:03:32

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

For now I've resurrected the old method for spreading requests over multiple servers: decide which server to use based on whether the request is a country or a custom request. This works -as they say- "good enough", though I'm still thinking about a more scalable method.

Something like Gearman seems promising. Configure a few Gearman workers depending on the server capabilities and issue render requests from a Gearman client. Requests are queued and automatically spread over the workers who are ready to do some work. Sounds perfect and allows for easy adding/removing of resources.

We'll see... smile


Mapping tools: Garmin GPSmap 60CSx, Giant Terrago 2002

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#1572 2012-08-08 00:03:54

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Naive questions. The California map I created for the Nüvi 1200 using your excellent tool worked very well but in big cities (e.g. San Francisco) many,many street names are missing.

I saw in an earlier post something about a road-name-pois parameter, and wonder whether I should follow the process described in the FAQ to create the image manually (instead of the server) so that the street names in major cities are also included.

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#1573 2012-08-08 00:08:08

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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Do the names you are looking for actually exist in the OSM map? If they do, do they not show up when you zoom in or put your mouse pointer on the road?

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#1574 2012-08-08 00:47:52

Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Hi Beddhist,
Yes, when I zoom in the street shows up on the Nüvi satnav (and web openstreetmap.org). But I can't search for it.
So the problem is that the name isn't making it to the searchable index on the satnav. E.g. Eureka street in San Francisco.

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#1575 2012-08-09 10:03:24

Lambertus
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Re: Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

I've switched to another tool to generate the MacOSX version due to a bug in the gmapi-builder script concerning TYP-files. The new tool is the commandline interface version of JaVaWa's MapConverter. Many thanks for Jaco for providing this tool.

Both servers should now also be creating valid gmapi containers when a TYP file is included.


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