Israel GTFS release

Mr_Israel · 2012-08-18 00:35:15

I just found two interesting slides.

http://www.slideshare.net/shelef/the-ad … -in-israel
http://www.slideshare.net/shelef/transi … te-2012-v4

Very interesting that there is no word about Openstreetmap.
Maybe we should tell him how great the step was for Openstreetmap.

What do you think?

yrtimiD · 2012-12-12 00:56:18

I was wondering why our imported bus stop refs always differs from the id printed in the real bus stop sign.
The original text files has two fields - stop_id and stop_code. As I understand, we used stop_code for ref field.
I think it's better to use the actual ID printed on bus stop's sign so we'll be easier to confirm existing stops.

Anybody have other opinion?

yxejamir · 2012-12-12 10:25:06

I noticed that, too, but did not say anything because I am not familiar with the implementation details.

yrtimiD wrote:

I think it's better to use the actual ID printed on bus stop's sign so we'll be easier to confirm existing stops.

I agree; if stop_id is really what’s printed on the signs, then it would make much more sense to use those for physical cross-reference.

yrtimiD · 2012-12-14 02:25:26

I just finished to upload a changeset (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14265835)
The new values as follows:

stop_id -> gtfs:id
stop_code -> ref

eric22, Important note for you: If you going to do further imports, please be sure you change your scripts.

I have chosen gtfs:id tag name, but if somebody have better idea for the name - it's not a problem to change.

Also, I found 93 missed bus stops. Possible they recently have been added to the gtfs files, or were deleted by users.
IMHO, for future route imports we may not delete stops which isn't exist phisically, but may mark them, for example, as proposed:

highway=proposed
proposed=bus_stop

I'm ready to upload this set of missed stops at any time.

eric22 · 2012-12-14 10:44:03

I have no current plans to update the bus stops, but I've made a note to myself this.

Feel free to upload the missed stops.

yrtimiD · 2012-12-19 16:58:34

Guys, I talked with owners of Moovit application http://www.moovit.co.il/.
It's very nice application for public transport which also use data from GTFS and our map.

Asked them to work together on fixing and updating current GTFS data and they appear very cooperative and will be happy to sync bus stop info two way.

Here is a part of their answer:

We do have all stations from the GTFS database in additions to new stations and existing station corrections by users (this is already possible from the app - tap a station on the map, and then tap the location icon ).
We would love to cooperate with you guys. How were you planning to validate the data? do you send people to do that?
Cc to this mail is Roy, our co-founder, which will send you a list with all the stations we have, their ID, and their updated xy location according to the latest info we have.
Let's think of the most efficient process that you can incorporate every change we make from here on in your data and vise verse.

Tzafrir Cohen · 2012-12-22 21:34:34

Where can I find more information on specific GTFS IDs?

See my http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14370035 from today.
I added some more information on th Hatzor bus terminal. There were some six stations scattered around it that seem to have been related. I'm not sure what they all mean.

yrtimiD · 2012-12-22 21:52:32

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Where can I find more information on specific GTFS IDs?

What kind of information you need? Explanations about whole GTFS data you can find at http://tinyurl.com/chhb6wn
For now, you can confirm/move actual position of the bus stop by comparing its ref value with actual code printed on bus stop label.

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