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#1 Re: Feedback » Request for a new users Community (users: China) » 2013-05-16 17:59:12

The Chinese community forum is created. Have fun!

#2 Re: Feedback » Tapatalk support » 2013-05-13 10:53:24

Unfortunately PunBB and it's sister forum software FluxBB (which is used by this forum) are not supported by Tapatalk at the time I write this.

#4 Re: Garmin maps » Table of Garmin Map ID's » 2013-04-14 22:00:11

ligfietser wrote:

Instead of this Sticky: Problems Entering "State/Province" Name on Garmin nuvi 200 (should be resolved with the improved address search)

Your wish is my command smile

#5 Re: Garmin maps » Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl » 2013-04-14 11:36:23

ligfietser wrote:
Lambertus wrote:

The tiles are generated on osm.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de and then copied to osm2. The Mkgamp on osm2 is only used to create the gmapsupp and -I think- not related to recent improvements in the search capabilities as those concern the indexes in separate tiles. But I could be mistaken ofcourse.

I think it is better always use the same mkgmap version?

Possibly, but it has almost always been the case that the Mkgmap version on osm2 is lagging behind. Differences should only have effects when it concerns gmapsupp creation. Anyway, I have a map from osm2 on my GPS and address search works fine.

#6 Garmin maps » Install maps on Oregon using Mac OSX? » 2013-04-14 11:27:56

Lambertus
Replies: 2

One of my users emailed extensively with me to get the maps on his Mac and Oregon GPS. I don't have a Mac but we managed to get the map installed in BaseCamp. Now he's trying to get the map on his GPS when he emails:

I so much hate to bother you again.
After working so hard for so long I thought I finally got your maps onto my garmin oregon 450t.
I have enclosed a screen print of what I have.
Basically my sd says it has maps (so I thought I was successful). I double checked but removing from garmin and installing into computer.
When I am in my oregon and try to choose a map the topo us is the only option I have.

The basecamp does not show maps under the sd except the topi, but it does on the heading under maps.
When I try to install the messages say it is already on the device and doesn't ask where or tell me where.
As you can see, the topo and global garmin maps are installed at a different location.

I am puzzled as can be.
This is my last chance.
We leave Tuesday for China. I so much want to have a map and not be blind but am out of time.
Looking at my screen print and the devices can you see what is happening and offer a suggestion?

400

Does the Oregon know about maps in "/garmin/maps/" or should he move the maps to the parent directory?

I hope someone can help with this.

#7 Re: Garmin maps » Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl » 2013-04-14 11:13:22

gspeed wrote:

hey, I tried myself but: http://osm2.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de/g … icense.txt

the vesion is "Map created with mkgmap-r2309" - that's pretty old, how did you get 2544?

The tiles are generated on osm.pleiades.uni-wuppertal.de and then copied to osm2. The Mkgamp on osm2 is only used to create the gmapsupp and -I think- not related to recent improvements in the search capabilities as those concern the indexes in separate tiles. But I could be mistaken ofcourse.

The commandline parameters have been posted at various places in this topic

#8 Re: Development » Routing website using Gosmore routing engine » 2013-04-10 22:48:27

So there are currently still only two servers available, one for the America's and one for the rest of the world (Eurasia). And the number of users are increasing. This month I've seen days with over 300.000 route requests. What a marvellous feat for a routing application (Gosmore) developed for mobile devices!

But as the load on the Eurasia server is increasing, and the unfortunate habit of Gosmore to run for long periods and consume huge amounts of RAM for long routes, there are unfortunately periods where the server starts to drop requests. To combat this while waiting for extra servers to become available a simple load balancing function is implemented that simply redirects requests to the American server when the Eurasia server is working on two or more route requests. I hope this increases the responsiveness. It will become handy when the new servers come online as well.

#9 Re: Garmin maps » Contour lines » 2013-04-06 20:00:56

OpenMTBmap, VeloMap and a generic map all claim to have contour lines for Canada. I'm currently considering adding contour lines to my maps as well, but that will take a while.

#10 Re: Garmin maps » Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl » 2013-03-31 18:38:03

popej wrote:

Is it a transliteration? I think it is English name, for example German München is Munich in English.

Yes, it's caused by the transliteration step:

Lambertus wrote:

I notice that the name tag contains the ö and ß still, but there's also the name:engels tag from the transliteration step. And because Mkgmap is instructed to choose the name:engels over the name tag the ö and ß is lost in the final map.

popej wrote:

If you create map of the world, then you don't have much choices. I think for now only CP1252 and int_name/name:en could be used.

Indeed.

#11 Re: Garmin maps » Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl » 2013-03-31 13:04:20

tbillert wrote:

Thanks, Lambertus - I don't think I get the complete message, but at least I understand what codepages are.

So is there any way I can fix Umlauts, or would it require extensive tuning of the logic behind your website?

I understand, the whole process is quite complicated to grasp at first. However, I've looked at the various steps in my toolchain and this is what finally goes into Mkgmap:

<node id="472822" lat="51.5208622" lon="7.2363666">
	<tag k="bus" v="yes"/>
	<tag k="highway" v="bus_stop"/>
	<tag k="name" v="HER-Vöde-/Bergstraße"/>
	<tag k="network" v="VRR"/>
	<tag k="operator" v="HCR"/>
	<tag k="public_transport" v="stop_position"/>
	<tag k="ref" v="Vöde-/Bergstraße, Herne"/>
	<tag k="name:engels" v="HER-Vode-/Bergstrasse"/>
</node>

I notice that the name tag contains the ö and ß still, but there's also the name:engels tag from the transliteration step. And because Mkgmap is instructed to choose the name:engels over the name tag the ö and ß is lost in the final map.

The question is: should the transliteration step transliterate German special characters? And how about French ç or Turkish ş etc? I.e. do we only want to transliterate when the original script is not compatible with CP1252 or do we want to transliterate everything that is not compatible with the English script?

#12 Re: Garmin maps » Worldwide routable Garmin maps: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl » 2013-03-30 19:02:22

tbillert wrote:

Works pretty well, but I noticed that all Umlauts in city, steet etc. names get lost (ö -> o, ä -> a etc.). Is there anything I can do about that? Umlauts work fine in OSM Freizeitkarte.

First you'll have to look at my maps from an international perspective:
There are hundreds of languages and scripts and only few people are able to read Roman, Cyrillic, Thai as well as Kanji to name only a few. So when I started this service I decided that Roman script and English language would be the base for my maps. Other map makers will have to provide localized maps, like Freizeitkarte.

Technically this translates to:
Before the OSM data is rendered by Mkgmap I use a custom built transliteration application to convert Cyrillic script to Roman. This application can transliterate more then just Cyrillic but the definitions for other scripts are lacking. After this step Mkgmap is used to create the Garmin tiles. For this I use the following Mkgmap parameter:

 --name-tag-list=name:en,int_name,name:zh_py,name:engels,name

This selects which name tag to use in the Garmin tiles in the order from left to right. All the name tags are documented in the OSM wiki with the exception of 'name:engels' which comes from the transliteration step. So the normal 'name' tag is only used when none of the other tags is available. This may be the cause of your missing Umlauts for cities but I think it's unlikely the cause for the street names.

Another (remote) possible cause may be the "--latin1" Mkgmap parameter which should translate to CP1252 but this code page includes Umlauts so should not be the problem.

ligfietser wrote:

Another question for Lambertus, why are the typ files not updated?
It is important that every time I update the style files, the typ files are updated as well.
Dont know if your scripts automatically load the latest versions?

Typ file updating has been a manual operation up to now. I'll include automatic updates in the scripts for the next map update.

#13 Re: Garmin maps » Etrex doesn,t start up » 2013-03-30 18:31:29

This was posted by a contributor to the Mkgmap application in another thread:

WanMil wrote:
tbillert wrote:

I just used http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ to create small maps that fit in the internal memory of my Garmin Oregon 450. This speeds up its map display dramatically - I used OSM Freizeitkarte (http://www.freizeitkarte-osm.de/de/index.html) before, which has to be saved on the SD card because it's too large to fit into the internal memory.

Please be careful!! If you copy a corrupt map to the internal memory your GPS might get broken too so that you have to send it to Garmin to repair.
Instead you can always remove an SD card if it contains a corrupt map.

WanMil

To which another Garmin insider replied:

JaVaWa wrote:
WanMil wrote:

If you copy a corrupt map to the internal memory your GPS might get broken too so that you have to send it to Garmin to repair.

You can fix it yourself if that happens; all you need is to put the Oregon into the 'Forced USB Mass Storage Mode'. It is described here for the Montana, but the same procedure applies to the Oregon: http://garminmontanagpsr.wikispaces.com/Recovery

#16 Re: Development » Develop application (search for the shortest way + OSRM) » 2013-03-27 14:50:32

Look up 'reverse geocoder' on the OSM wiki or in Google. There are plenty services who provide an API for that.

#18 Re: Feedback » Forums for smaller countries: Baltic countries? Estonia? » 2013-03-24 18:54:35

I only create forums when people ask for it. That way I hope they'll actually use it smile

Subforum for Estonia created. Have fun!

#19 Re: Feedback » users:montenegro » 2013-03-24 18:51:27

Subforum is created. Have fun!

#20 Re: Feedback » users:montenegro » 2013-03-22 22:25:58

Hi, do you want a separate subforum for Montenegro?

#21 Re: users: Germany » Einiges wurde gelöscht » 2013-03-22 16:02:04

Thanks Oli-Wan, it looks like you're better acquainted to Dutch law at this subject then I do. My lack of knowledge is why I referred to the interpretation of a well-know Dutch internet lawyer who says (in my translation): when you take some time to write an original text then you have copyright. This text doesn't have to be on an artistic or literary level, when you have put thought into what to write then it is yours and you have copyright.

Anyway, as I said, I'd like to err on the cautious side. I'm not afraid of further legal threats, especially now that I think it's handled to the best of my ability. This reminds me of the Irish PONC postcode discussion where I was threatened with legal action to remove every negative comment from the forum. Well, there's something like freedom of speech so I sent the guy my contact details and told him: 'see you in court then'. Never heard a thing after that... tongue

#22 Re: users: Germany » Einiges wurde gelöscht » 2013-03-22 13:42:21

Oli-Wan wrote:
Lambertus wrote:

I've received complaints from ... that content from private emails is posted on this forum. On request of ... I'll remove the offending quotes from the posts in this topic.

Talking about privacy issues, please note that we've avoided mentioning the user's name so far.

Not entirely. The user was mentioned here and ofcourse in the OSM changesets. But copyright (which is the main issue here) also applies when the source is not mentioned.

Oli-Wan wrote:

Yes. And by German law, the anonymous quotes could be ok. But it's better to be on the safe side.

In Germany, perhaps. But this forum is hosted in the Netherlands and so is at least bound by Dutch laws. Looking at this from an international viewpoint it all becomes very blurry, but I prefer to err on the safe side as I don't have any particular wishes of seeing police officers on my doorstep smile Please note: Ethera did not threaten me with civil actions (yet).

#23 Feedback » This forum and the law » 2013-03-22 13:11:45

Lambertus
Replies: 0

This is an international forum hosted in the Netherlands, so as far as I'm concerned Dutch laws apply to this forum. In this topic I'll document any situation that arises while operating this forum. If you have comments/complaints please use the 'report' function of the forum, post in this topic or contact me privately.

* Posting content from private emails *
Dutch copyright law applies to copying private email content on this forum. Dutch copyright law essentially says: When the author explicitly states that the email content is private you may not cite it publicly. Citation (i.e. copy/paste) is only allowed when the author explicitly allows you to cite. Otherwise you may spread the gist of the email in your own words only as the original email is protected by copyright.

The forum moderators and I will remove offending content as soon as possible when someone takes issues with copying their email on this forum and reported this.

==
PS. I'm not a layer but I try to act to my best knowledge how Dutch law is intended.

#24 Re: users: Germany » Einiges wurde gelöscht » 2013-03-22 13:03:16

Hi all, please read this post carefully.

Dutch copyright law applies to copying private email content on this forum as this forum is hosted in the Netherlands. Dutch copyright law essentially says: When the author explicitly states that the email content is private you may not cite it publicly. Citation (i.e. copy/paste) is only allowed when the author explicitly allows you to cite. Otherwise you may spread the gist of the email in your own words only as the original email is protected by copyright.

I've received complaints from Ethera that content from private emails is posted on this forum. On request of Ethera I'll remove the offending quotes from the posts in this topic.

PS. I'm not a layer but I try to act to my best knowledge how Dutch law is intended.

#25 Re: users: Netherlands » Kruising met 'viruele' wegen de juiste manier? » 2013-03-21 22:59:51

Nou ja, realiteit, ik dacht dat we wegen als lijntjes mappen, niet elke baan tussen twee stippellijntjes op een plaat asfalt? Bij snelweg afslagen begint het lijntje van de afrit ook pas wanneer de doorgetrokken streep begint...

Edit: Nog meer, met zelfs tertiare wegen die de busremise in gaan roll
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.21 … 8&layers=M

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